2005 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:22

Engines look like they're limited to 18250rpm
Thats what - 1000rpm down on what they can do.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:26

Barrichello has retired - just pulled into the garage.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:28

Those tyres are totally bald. Thus - Illegal - according to the clarification that Ferrari got after they complained about the michelin tyres.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:30

Look at those blisters on Trulli's front right..lovely ring right around the tyre.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:32

Emlyn_Dewar said:
If any results are removed due to tyres being bald then it's high time for F1 as a sport to be cancelled, until Max Mosely dies... Then maybe go back and start again...

Ferrari protested the michelin tyres in 2003 I think..that was the rule clarification.

There has to be visible grooves. Otherwise it's just a full slick.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:35

And well done Alonso!!

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:36

Well done to Toyota as well. 2nd and 5th

Ugh...look at the sweat on Flav's shirt.

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:51

Subject to Confirmation

Current Standings

2005 Drivers Championship.

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[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points[/b]
1 	Fernando Alonso 	Spanish 	Renault 		16
2	Giancarlo Fisichella 	Italian		Renault 		10 
=3	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			8
=3 	Rubens Barrichello 	Brazilian 	Ferrari 		8 
=3	David Coulthard 	British 	Red Bull Racing 	8 
=3	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	8 
7	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		6
=8	Ralf Schumacher		German		Toyota			4
=8	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		4 
10	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		3
11	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			2
12	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	1

2005 Constructors Championship.

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[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	Renault			26  
2	Toyota			12
3	Red Bull Racing		11
=4	Ferrari			10
=4	Williams-BMW		10 
6	McLaren-Mercedes	9

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 08:58

If you look at the lap chart it clearly shows where the pit stops were.

They really need to stop refueling. Also the pit lane speed limits have made them more strategic as it now takes at least 20 seconds from in to out

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 10:33

All the following results ate subject to confirmation by the FIA.

Race Results.

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[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Laps	Time		Grid	Points[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			56	Winner		1	10 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			56	+24.3 secs	2	8 
3	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		56	+32.1 secs	10	6 
4	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	56	+41.6 secs	11	5 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			56	+51.8 secs	5	4 
6	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		56	+72.5 secs	8	3 
7	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			56	+79.9 secs	13	2 
8	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		56	+80.8 secs	7	1 
9	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	56	+81.5 secs	6	 
10	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		55	+1 Lap		14	 
11	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		54	+2 Lap		17	 
12	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		53	+3 Lap		18	 
13	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	52	+4 Lap		20	 
Ret	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			49	+7 Lap		12	 
Ret	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			36	Accident	3	 
Ret	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		36	Accident	4	 
Ret	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		26	Spin		16	 
Ret	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		2	Engine		9	 
Ret	4	Anthony Davidson	BAR-Honda		2	Engine		15	 
Ret	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	2	Spin		19

Fastest Laps.

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[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Lap	Time		Speed	Laptime[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			24	14:43:06	222.807	1:25.683 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			55	15:28:42	222.001	1:25.994 
3	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			54	15:27:21	221.386	1:26.233 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	55	15:29:22	221.329	1:26.255 
5	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		55	15:29:50	221.316	1:26.260 
6	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			38	15:04:15	221.314	1:26.261 
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	41	15:08:11	220.976	1:26.393 
8	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		37	15:02:17	220.720	1:26.493 
9	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			56	15:31:39	220.611	1:26.536 
10	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		39	15:05:33	220.379	1:26.627 
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		40	15:06:40	220.219	1:26.690 
12	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		38	15:04:07	219.803	1:26.854 
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		55	15:29:46	219.704	1:26.893 
14	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			56	15:31:11	219.142	1:27.116 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		54	15:28:57	217.571	1:27.745 
16	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		36	15:01:41	217.244	1:27.877 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		36	15:02:13	217.014	1:27.970 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		16	14:31:49	214.505	1:28.999 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	22	14:42:43	205.604	1:32.852 
20	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	11	14:24:56	204.960	1:33.144

Pit Stops

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[b]Stop	No	Driver			Time			Lap	Time of day	Time	Total time[/b]
1	20	Patrick Friesacher 	Minardi-Cosworth	15	14:31:15	24.700	24.700 
1	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			18	14:33:58	22.279	22.279 
1	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		18	14:34:05	24.102	24.102 
1	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		18	14:34:49	23.528	23.528 
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			19	14:35:57	21.802	21.802 
1	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		19	14:36:18	26.634	26.634 
1	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		20	14:36:56	23.535	23.535 
1	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		20	14:37:04	22.961	22.961 
1	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		20	14:37:31	23.219	23.219 
1	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		21	14:38:22	22.696	22.696 
1	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		21	14:38:55	22.884	22.884 
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			21	14:39:22	23.684	45.486 
1	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		22	14:40:25	21.839	21.839 
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			23	14:41:09	21.566	21.566 
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	23	14:41:28	23.120	23.120 
1	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			25	14:44:22	21.252	21.252 
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			25	14:44:30	21.921	21.921 
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	25	14:44:56	19.951	19.951 
1	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			26	14:46:25	20.825	20.825 
1	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		27	14:47:56	25.924	25.924 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			36	15:01:11	22.190	44.469 
2	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	34	15:01:36	27.694	52.394 
2	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		36	15:02:54	26.593	50.121 
2	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		39	15:05:11	23.361	46.896 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	39	15:05:39	22.684	42.635 
2	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		39	15:06:05	23.348	45.187 
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		39	15:06:46	22.987	49.621 
2	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		40	15:06:58	23.150	46.111 
2	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		40	15:07:00	23.660	47.762 
2	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		40	15:07:35	24.279	47.498 
3	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			40	15:07:46	20.103	1:05.589 
2	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		41	15:09:01	24.357	47.241 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			42	15:09:18	19.546	41.112 
2	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		42	15:09:35	20.679	43.375 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	42	15:09:42	20.803	43.923 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			42	15:10:03	19.803	40.628 
2	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			43	15:11:01	19.885	41.137 
2	5	Fernando Alonso	Renault				45	15:14:00	18.751	40.672

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 15:06

For anyone that missed it - the Replay *that is actually 10 mins longer than the live show :rolleyes* is now coming on ITV.

There was 1 real exciting piece of that race - and that was the Heidfeld/Webber/R.Schumacher 3 way. All credit to them for not taking each other off *although Ralf got close.

*

Personally we should dump refueling - it makes the pit stops too long and thus more strategic. It should be just sprint in - change wheels in 4.5 seconds - sprint out. Less time in the pit means more overtaking eeds to be done on the track - and none of the guessing how much fuel everyone has - they've all got roughly the same.

I would love to see a change fo the design rules to:
1 Engine
4 wheels
No moving aerodynamic components
No driver aids and reduced electronics - physical link between gearbox and gearlever, throttle and throttle peddle etc....I liked the idea of standard ECU's - prevents hiding code that once executed deleted itself..*yes..that was done..*

Here's a box 1m tall by 2m wise by 4m long.
It must fit in this box..
Go and play!

Get some innovation back into the sport.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 17:01

I love this section of a file I've just received from my mate...

2005 MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX
RACE FACTS - LAP-BY-LAP REPORT

*SNIP*

* Lap 3: Button pulls off in a haze of engine smoke. Precisely 32 seconds later, team-mate Davidson does likewise. Alonso is 2.1s clear. Friesacher spins into retirement at Turn One.

*SNIP*

32 seconds precicely.

Oh and...Lap chart

It's now uploading...

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 18:22

divine_madness said:
i missed that bit

I'll see if I can get a video clip done of the 2 exciting bits...

The Webber/Heidfeld/R.Schumacher 3some and the Fisi/Webber incident..

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 18:51

Arc said:
Thats not including Buttons engine that blew up after Qual 1, so Button has two engines in one weekend and they dont last more than a few minutes each. Then add in Davidsons one engine for the weekend.

To be fair though, Malaysia is pretty unique with respect to temps and humidity. They may have been unlucky with a basic part failing on all three engines.

His engine didn't go bang..I read reports that it had and had been changed - but it wasn't.

He just had a major oil leak which was fixed without changing the engine.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 20 Mar 2005 at 21:43

GOt a couple of videos uploaded as well..they'll probably kill my webspace...but what the hell.

Both 320x240 XviD

http://www.flibster.eclipse.co.uk/F1/tempvideo/3some.avi - 7.02mb - Webber, Heidfeld and Ralf Schumacher having some fun

http://www.flibster.eclipse.co.uk/F1/tempvideo/3some.avi - 18mb - Webber and Fisichella tripping over wach other.

The more I watch that incident the more I think it was Fisi's fault for pushing to hard on knackered tires down the inside on all the marbles. He should have just let Webber go..

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 21 Mar 2005 at 09:49

Borrowed from www.pitpass.com.

Fisichella rapped by Race Stewards

Although he will not be penalised, in the eyes of race stewards at Sepang, Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella was adjudged to have been responsible for the incident which eliminated both he and WilliamsF1 driver Mark Webber.

Interviewed moments after the collision Fisichella claimed that it wasn't his fault, but didn't go as far as blaming the Australian. Webber, on the other hand, was under no illusion: "I had a go at Fisi at turn 14 then Ralf passed me at turn 15," said the Australian, "but I managed to pass him again and close back up on Fisi".

"His (Fisichella's) tyres were getting worse and worse and I passed him at turn 14 but then he came down the inside at the next corner. He was really on the dirty stuff then. I was happy for him to go down there as I knew it would be difficult for him to stop. I went back to the clean stuff before braking and I don't think Giancarlo could stop - he braked too late on the dirty stuff, we interlocked wheels and he landed on top of my car!"

Clearly, the race stewards saw it pretty much the same way. Having viewed video evidence of the incident - shot from various angles - and talked with both drivers, they gave the Italian a warning, though he will not be penalised in Bahrain.

In addition to tyre wear, the Italian had suffered a massive loss of downforce following the loss of a piece of bodywork, thought to be a bargeboard.