2006 Bahrain Grand Prix - Race 1/18

Flibster said:
Arrgggh.....

More rule changes - this time within 48 hours of the event...

For god sakes stop it!!

Granted it's a pain changing things this close to the start but it's something that needed addressed. Previously if you made it to session 3 you HAD to start the race on the amount of fuel which was in the car when the green light went on for session 3. Now if you stuck it in the kitty litter in session 2 while on a real flyer then you could have ended up having to sit out session 3 due to a lack of fuel and potentially not having enough fuel to do an out lap to the grid and the parade lap to allow you to get back to the pits and refuel.
 
Tost quells Toro Rosso fears

As the only team running a restricted V10 engine, and with a chassis too familiar to the Red Bull 2005 car, Scuderia Toro Rosso make their debut in Bahrain amid controversy and threats of protests.

But the 'junior' Red Bull team boss, Franz Tost, believes their rivals have no reason to complain or worry about the former Minardi outfit, and he talks about the team's competitiveness, the engine equivalency formula, the chassis ownership, and more.

Q: What are your feelings on the new season? Are you excited or nervous?

Franz Tost: "Nothing has changed in this way apart from having more work and more responsibility. That is it. At the end we will see."

Q: Has it surprised you that all winter, your rival teams have only been talking about your V10 engine and its performance?

Tost: "First of all, I don't believe that all of them have talked about us, because if this is the case then their winter time must have been too boring. At the same time - and I now talk from Toro Rosso's side - we have so much work to do, that I cannot think about what other teams are doing and which engine decision they will make.

"Therefore, I think there were two or three people who always talked about our engine, the V10. They talked to the press and they made a little bit of publicity, in a negative way, against us.

"But for me it is quite clear. The FIA regulations say that we, as a private team, can run a V10 engine. We have to run it with the 77mm air restrictor and with the 16,700rpm limit, and that is it so far. I cannot understand why some of them are so against this decision."

Q: Do you think it is not an equivalency formula at all? It is more a restriction on your performance?

Tost: "I don't know where they think our performance will be so good. During the tests, we were 1.0 to 1.5 seconds (per lap) behind the others, and we are 5-8km/h behind the others in terms of top speed, and therefore I don't know where they have got the information that we are faster and our package has such a good performance that we can do good results.

"I hope that they are right, but realistically in qualifying we are not able to be within the first ten because there are six works teams, with 12 cars, and apart from this we have Williams with two cars.

"There are other competitors with a really good package; therefore, I don't know how they can say Toro Rosso has such a good performance. I hope they are right because I would be very happy about this, to be honest."

Q: But it must be hard for you, the more you improve the car and go faster, the more your performance will be pulled back...

Tost: "Look, if we are legal and running within the FIA regulation, I cannot see a reason why they will hold us back. Why? It depends.

"If we were in the first position and running 10 seconds in front of Renault, then okay. But first, this will not be the case. And second, I could understand it then. They would say that this is not within the thoughts of the people who made the regulations. This I understand and would be 100 percent accepting from our side.

"But let's wait and see. Tomorrow we have the first free practice, Saturday qualifying, and Sunday the race, and then we will know more about everything.

"From the engine performance side, I am absolutely convinced that many, many of the V8 engines are in front, because during the winter time the manufacturers did a tremendous job - they made a big step forward and therefore I don't expect us to have such a great advantage over the other teams regarding engine power."

Q: But on that point, if it is an equivalency formula, it should not be something that changes regularly, because if you do improve your car, it would be anti-competitive to then restrict you?

Tost: "But who says that if we are within the first eight - which, once more, I do not believe we will be - that we will be restricted? Who says this?"

Q: Well, that is the question. The FIA has always said it will change instantly...

Tost: "Yes, Max Mosley always said that if he sees that the V10 engine has an advantage over the V8, and if they made the wrong type of regulation, then he would change it, and he would change it immediately, from hour to hour. We know this. It is quite fair. And the rest, we will see.

"But to be honest I cannot see an advantage up to now. All the calculations that Cosworth have done so far are correct. And the measurements and dyno tests that some other manufacturers did were with different restrictors - for example, it is important how you fit in the restrictor into the airbox.

"If it is 10mm with a 90-degree angle or if you have a little bit of radius in there, then immediately you have the Venturi Effect and then immediately you have 20-30 percent more horsepower.

"And that is clear. It means that first the people who talk against the V10, they must know how they have measured it. I don't know. I only know this from some manufacturers, that they tried a right angle, and it is wrong. If you have a radius in there, it is wrong and you have another output from the engine. That is all I can say and let's wait and see."

Q: How will the FIA establish whether a V10 is an advantage?

Tost: "They will see it. They will see it in the speeds and where we are placed. They will see how good our performance is. For people at the FIA, it is very easy to police where we are because they have all the data and they can see where we are.

"They can see if we have an advantage from the engine side or from the chassis side, or the driver's side, wherever. It is very easy to police and control everything. They have all the data. If they want, they know everything."

Q: If you were only quicker than Midland and Super Aguri it wouldn't be a problem, but if you were quicker than Williams, Toyota or Red Bull it would...

Tost: "No, I don't see this. Because it depends. Normally Red Bull is in front of us, from car performance and qualifying. And if, for example, they did not finish a race - or any competitors for that matter - because of reliability problems, then you cannot punish us on the grounds that we are in front of them due to the V10. That would be ridiculous.

"It depends on the circumstance. If we are running in front of a manufacturer who does not have any problems, either with tyres or reliability or anything else, then we have to think about it. But this will not happen. I cannot believe it.

"We are a young team, we nearly have inexperienced drivers, last year Tonio [Liuzzi] did four races, and Scott Speed is completely new, Neel Jani is new in F1, wherefrom they should immediately get the performance level to be in front of the others... I think this is for some people an excuse to talk about something because they have themselves not done a good enough job."

Q: There have been some other comments about the legality of your car. What can you say about that?

Tost: "I don't know exactly what they are claiming. The fact is that Scuderia Toro Rosso is the owner of the (intellectual) property rights of the RB1 as well as of the STR1. That means from the regulation side we could have run the RB1, because we are the owner of the property rights, but we did not do this.

"We improved this car from the aero side a little bit, and some other improvements where we expect a better performance, and that is it. I don't know what is wrong from this side. It is something that is within the regulations, so I don't understand what they are claiming."

Q: Do you think some other teams will protest you?

Tost: "I don't know. I always hear that Midland will protest, but I don't know what they will protest - the chassis or the engine. You know, as far as I can say, we did everything to be within the regulations, and the FIA has the regulation that we respect. And I don't know what they (Midland) are against, and then I don't know what the scrutineers or the stewards will decide."

Q: Ultimately, isn't it better that your rivals are worried about you than if they were not?

Tost: "Yeah, it is good. On one side it is okay, because let me say it is better if they talk about you than if they don't, and we have to earn that.

"But I would prefer if they talked that we are a really good team and they liked us. Positive criticism is always better than negative criticism, and we should not start an F1 season from the beginning talking about protests and those kind of things. That is a negative taste for me. I would not like to do this.

"I would never start an F1 season talking in the press that I would protest against this team or that team. For me, that is not good."
 
Red Bull's F1 party

Thursday 9 March at 21:39 : Hours from the start of this year’s Formula One action getting underway in Bahrain, Red Bull hosted a spectacular Arabian Nights launch for Scuderia Toro Rosso’s debut in the sport and Red Bull Racing’s second year in F1.

The world’s press and a galaxy of VIP guests were invited to attend the “1002nd Arabian Night” on a private island off the coast of Bahrain. Oil lamps lit the way down a kilometre of carpet to the venue where everything Arabia is famous for was on show. Dancers and musicians entertained everyone as they feasted on delicious local cuisine, prior to the action speeding up on stage. Film of the two teams in action culminated in some atmospheric footage of all four cars from both teams racing one another around the Paul Ricard Circuit in the South of France.

Then, in a moment straight out of every cliché of Arabian culture, a Red Bull Racing car and Scuderia Toro Rosso machine swept through the air on hidden wires to arrive on stage as if on a Magic Carpet. The new liveries reflect the fact that Red Bull’s two teams are in competition with one another but are very much part of the same family. As the obligatory dry ice swirled around the cars, the six drivers stepped out on stage to an enthusiastic welcome from the one thousand strong crowd.

“What a fantastic venue,” said David Coulthard. “I think the film played before the cars swooped onto the stage conveyed the excitement of F1. The livery looked fantastic and all six of us are keen to get a good result this weekend.”

“As usual with Red Bull, everything about the venue and party is fantastic,” added team-mate Christian Klien.

“I’m new here, but I’ve been to Red Bull parties before and this lives up to their reputation,” reckoned third driver, Robert Doornbos. “The cars look great, so let’s hope they go as quick as they look.”

The Scuderia Toro Rosso youngsters were equally impressed. “I love a party,” said the team’s American rookie, Scott Speed. “After winter testing mainly in Europe, I love the warm weather.” Tonio Liuzzi is an old hand at Red Bull parties so had a laid-back approach. “Hey, it’s Red Bull, of course it’s an awesome party! But I’m going to bed early now, as I have a job to do tomorrow.” Neel Jani was enthusiastic about his first official function with Toro Rosso. “Wow, the car looks fantastic, but to be honest I’m more impressed by the beautiful women here!”

The Bahrain event proved to be as spectacular as the Shanghai Red Bull party that brought last year’s Championship to an impressive climax. But with work tomorrow, the event did not go on too long after midnight, but was given the official seal of approval, by the presence of FIA President Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone.

Red Bull Racing's RB2




Scuderia Toro Rosso's STR1



Click for bigger...

RB2 looks as expected - the STR1 looks *imho* great. :D
Can't wait to see it in the flesh though.

*and the team posts updated with the new images. ;)*
 
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Just got an extra large version of the STR1 car *seems one of the guys in Bahrain is reading this thread... Hmmmm.....Post damn you - it's only 1:40am there!!!*

Thinking about making it my backdrop at work - just need to edit it down to 3200x1200

Or - alternatively have 1 as the McLaren and 1 as the STR car...

Simon/~Flibster
 
Flibster said:
Just got an extra large version of the STR1 car *seems one of the guys in Bahrain is reading this thread... Hmmmm.....Post damn you - it's only 1:40am there!!!*

Thinking about making it my backdrop at work - just need to edit it down to 3200x1200

Or - alternatively have 1 as the McLaren and 1 as the STR car...

Simon/~Flibster


Please, for the love of god, tell me we will get the oportunity to download this image ;)!
 
Just emailed them back asking if I can upload it somewhere for others to see/download.

Looks like it's the original full size version though. :eek:

5328 x 4000 @ 15.2mb... :eek:

Simon/~Flibster
 
Ready set launch!

Later tonight, Red Bull is staging a party to reveal the new 2006 liveries for both its teams, but spare a thought for the Red Bull Racing team personnel who won’t even get to the launch party. Today, in the garage, the three cars – two race and one spare – have been partially disguised as the mechanics set about getting them ready for the first practice session on Friday.

Later tonight, the shutters will come down, the doors will be closed and the job of redecorating the racers in their new colours will begin. It’s a major operation, as each of the Red Bull Racing cars needs 45 stickers and things like spare nose cones and wings also have to be re-liveried.

Three guys will attack one car each, taking four hours to complete the job.

Meanwhile, over at Toro Rosso, there is an even more complex livery, which means two men working on each car and taking a staggering eight hours to get the job done. None of the race drivers should even consider spinning off the track tomorrow if they don’t want to be lynched by their crew.

Holy hell!

I knew the cars were in their testing liverys when they arrived...but... :eek:

Thought that they'd just have 2 sets of bodywork for them whe they'r set up and then switch nose cones and other major panels just leaving the structural components to change - but it appears not... :eek:

Rather them than me... :D
 
Briatore says new F1 deal is close
Renault team chief Flavio Briatore says Formula One's manufacturer-backed teams are close to an agreement with Bernie Ecclestone to commit to the sport beyond 2008.

Briatore's comments follow positive signs from both Ecclestone and the Grand Prix Manufacturers' Association which suggest a deal is not far away.

The GPMA want a bigger share of the sport's revenues and they have threatened to launch their own championship from 2008, if their demands are not satisfied.

But Briatore has joined Ecclestone in saying the threat is close to going away.

"On a commercial level, we're close to an agreement with Ecclestone," Briatore told Gazzetta dello Sport. "The important thing is for F1 to generate profits, not costs. Our position is close to Ferrari's. The share to distribute to the teams should go from about 27% to 50-55%.

"Obviously we must not collect more money in order to just spend more. In 1995 we won the championship with 100 million dollars. Now we spend six times as much and the personnel has tripled, but we're not offering a spectacle up to the costs."
 
F1 teams sign new testing agreement
Formula One teams have now unanimously signed a new in-season testing agreement for the year ahead, autosport.com has learned.

Although the deal, which is based around the basic premise of a 36-day limit, was verbally agreed several weeks ago, it is understood that the final signature on the agreement was only put to paper last night.

All of F1's teams have confirmed to autosport.com that they have signed the document, meaning that there will not be a situation like last year where Ferrari operated to their own schedule because they did not agree with the 30-day limit agreed by their rivals.

The new agreement limits teams to a maximum of 36 days during the season, but they are able to nominate a circuit in their home country that has special dispensation.

A team will be able to test for a full day at their nominated track, but this will only count for half a day out of the allocation. This in theory means that Ferrari would be able to test for 72 days at Fiorano if they chose.

Although some team bosses have suggested that the 36-day limit does not go far enough in reducing testing, McLaren boss Ron Dennis said on Thursday that the deal was important in terms of bringing clarity.

"The testing agreement creates definition, but meaning what we have agreed to do and when, but as regards to the level of cost saving I would have liked to have seen, it has not really achieved that," Dennis said.

"But it is much better to have it that not have.

"It at least eliminates high cost testing, which was already creeping into the equation - i.e. intercontinental testing."
 
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