2006 Malaysian Grand Prix - Race 2/18

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:26

Schumacher, Massa, Webber, Rosberg and Button still to go out.

R.Schumacher has a engine failure on the main straight.

Now...will he start right from the back now? I have no idea...

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:29

Riiiiggghht...

Got the rules printed out here...

Ralf will stop right from the back of the grid as his engine is going to be changed after qualifying.

7 mins remaining.

Raikkonen
Montoya
R.Schumacher
Coulthard
Heidfeld
Fisichella
Trulli
Klien
Barrichello
Alonso
Villeneuve
M.Schumacher - no time set
Webber - no time set
Rosberg - no time set
Button - no time set
Massa - no time set

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:33

rpstewart said:
Wow that Williams is quick!!!

Not bad for a privateer.

Was thinking exactly that..

That is a seriously quick car...although the Cosworth engine helps a lot.

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:37

Code:

[b]Driver			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
Button			1:35.023	1:33.527
Fisichella		1:35.488	1:33.623
Alonso			1:35.514	1:33.997
Webber			1:35.252	1:34.279
Raikkonen		1:34.667	1:34.351
Klien			1:35.171	1:34.537
Rosberg			1:35.105	1:34.563
Montoya			1:34.536	1:35.568
M.Schumacher		1:35.810	1:34.574
R.Schumacher		1:35.214	1:34.586

POSITIONS SET AFTER SESSION 2

[b]Pos	Driver			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
11	Coulthard		1:34.839	1:34.614
12	Barrichello		1:35.526	1:34.683
13	Trulli			1:35.517	1:34.702
14	Villeneuve		1:35.391	1:34.752
15	Heidfeld		1:35.588	1:34.783
16	Massa			1:35.091	No time
17	Speed			1:36.297
18	Liuzzi			1:36.581
19	Albers			1:37.426
20	Monteiro		1:37.819
21	Sato			1:39.011
22	Ide			1:40.720

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:38

rpstewart said:
Agreed, would be a shame if they went with Toyotas next year. They really need a Hyundai or someone to come along and rebadge the Cossie.

It would certainly be a cheap way into F1 for Hyundai

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:41

Track is now open for the 15min trundle and 5 min sprint

All bar R.schumacher on track. Ralfi's Toyota is on the grass smoking somewhat heavilly.

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:49

They're now trundeling around at times between 1:36.6 and 1:40.1

God this session is dull...

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 06:52

Drivers now pitting and going to start blasting it...

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:00

8 cars on track.

Klien has stuck it into the pits and is going to stay there - if he was going to start 9/10th then there's no point.

That Williams is fantastic.

They could be running a bit lighter than the otehr around them but that is frankly astounding. I knew they were going agressive this race but.... :eek:

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:00

Session closed - laps can be completed though.

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:03

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
1	Fisichella		1:35.488	1:33.623	1:33.840	Engine Changed - No penalty
2	Button			1:35.023	1:33.527	1:33.986
3	Rosberg			1:35.105	1:34.563	1:34.626
4	M.Schumacher		1:35.810	1:34.574	1:34.668	Engine Penalty
5	Webber			1:35.252	1:34.279	1:34.672
9	Montoya			1:34.536	1:35.568	1:34.916
7	Raikkonen		1:34.667	1:34.351	1:34.983
8	Alonso			1:35.514	1:33.997	1:35.747
9	Klien			1:35.171	1:34.537	1:38.715
10	R.Schumacher		1:35.214	1:34.586	No Time		Engine Penalty
11	Coulthard		1:34.839	1:34.614			Engine Penalty
12	Barrichello		1:35.526	1:34.683			Engine Penalty
13	Trulli			1:35.517	1:34.702
14	Villeneuve		1:35.391	1:34.752			Engine Penalty
15	Heidfeld		1:35.588	1:34.783
16	Massa			1:35.091	No time				Engine Penalty
17	Speed			1:36.297
18	Liuzzi			1:36.581
19	Albers			1:37.426
20	Monteiro		1:37.819
21	Sato			1:39.011
22	Ide			1:40.720					Engine Penalty

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:05

Looking at the times - I'm wondering if the McLarens have been running heavier all through the sessions...their times have been roughtly the same throughout..

Hmm...

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:07

The advertisers really know their market don't they...

Broadband - ok..
Glasses...fair enough *although it does look like their wearing a giant condom instead of being a sausage..*

However....

Greatest musicals on DVD....
Riiiiggghhhttt....

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:10

I think this is how the grid is going to line up...

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
1	Fisichella		1:35.488	1:33.623	1:33.840	Engine Changed - No penalty
2	Button			1:35.023	1:33.527	1:33.986
3	Rosberg			1:35.105	1:34.563	1:34.626
4	Webber			1:35.252	1:34.279	1:34.672
5	Montoya			1:34.536	1:35.568	1:34.916
6	Raikkonen		1:34.667	1:34.351	1:34.983
7	Alonso			1:35.514	1:33.997	1:35.747
8	Klien			1:35.171	1:34.537	1:38.715
9	Trulli			1:35.517	1:34.702
10	M.Schumacher		1:35.810	1:34.574	1:34.668	Engine Penalty
11	Heidfeld		1:35.588	1:34.783
12	Speed			1:36.297
13	Liuzzi			1:36.581
14	Albers			1:37.426
15	Monteiro		1:37.819
16	Coulthard		1:34.839	1:34.614			Engine Penalty
17	Barrichello		1:35.526	1:34.683			Engine Penalty
18	Sato			1:39.011
19	Villeneuve		1:35.391	1:34.752			Engine Penalty
20	Ide			1:40.720					Engine Penalty
21	Massa			1:35.091	No time				Engine Penalty
22	R.Schumacher		1:35.214	1:34.586	No Time		Engine Penalty

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:14

Zip said:
How are you all watching this
Is brittish TV playing it?

ITV3 is..

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:19

rpstewart said:
God that's confusing, not only do you have to worry about 10 place drops but when those drops occurred

Yup....

I'm really struggling here with it - it's not easy at all to understand.

Looking at the times...

Alonso and the McLarens - Heavy
Button - Suspect first to pit of the front runners
Williams - around the same time as Button
Fisichella - shortly after Button adn Williams

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:36

Richard T said:
Ok, so why aint the german git dropped down 10 places? thats 6 not 10......He's only dropped to 10th? thats a crock!

He did drop down 10 places - however there was drives in front of him that had engine changed that dropped back as well.

It's not a fair penalty tbh. Something like dropping constructor points for that car could be more appropriate..

Or - engine change? Go to the back. But then you've got the who starts in front of who. The answer - more milage on the engine when it goes pop - go to the front - brand new engine goes pop - go right to the back...

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 07:49

Qualifying

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:33.840		
2	12	Jenson Button		Honda			1:33.986		
3	10	Nico Rosberg		Williams-Cosworth	1:34.626		
4	5	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:34.668		
5	9	Mark Webber		Williams-Cosworth	1:34.672		
6	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:34.916		
7	3	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:34.983		
8	1	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:35.747		
9	15	Christian Klien		RBR-Ferrari		1:38.715		
10	7	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:34.586*		
11	14	David Coulthard		RBR-Ferrari		1:34.614*		
12	11	Rubens Barrichello	Honda			1:34.683*		
13	8	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:34.702*		
14	17	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-BMW		1:34.752*		
15	16	Nick Heidfeld		Sauber-BMW		1:34.783*		
16	6	Felipe Massa		Ferrari			1:35.091*		
17	21	Scott Speed		STR-Cosworth		1:36.297**		
18	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	STR-Cosworth		1:36.581**		
19	19	Christijan Albers	MF1-Toyota		1:37.426**		
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		MF1-Toyota		1:37.819**		
21	22	Takuma Sato		Super Aguri-Honda	1:39.011**		
22	23	Yuji Ide		Super Aguri-Honda	1:40.720**

Notes: * time set in second 15-minute period ** time set in first 15-minute period

Sector Times - Qualifying

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.659	
2	14	David Coulthard		24.664	
3	9	Mark Webber		24.687	
4	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.723	
5	3	Kimi Räikkönen		24.735	
6	12	Jenson Button		24.735	
7	1	Fernando Alonso		24.735	
8	15	Christian Klien		24.741	
9	17	Jacques Villeneuve	24.763	
10	5	Michael Schumacher	24.822	
11	16	Nick Heidfeld		24.857	
12	10	Nico Rosberg		24.884	
13	8	Jarno Trulli		24.894	
14	11	Rubens Barrichello	25.005	
15	6	Felipe Massa		25.021	
16	7	Ralf Schumacher		25.105	
17	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	25.208	
18	21	Scott Speed		25.309	
19	19	Christijan Albers	25.468	
20	22	Takuma Sato		25.540	
21	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.728	
22	23	Yuji Ide		25.817

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	12	Jenson Button		30.677	
2	7	Ralf Schumacher		30.715	
3	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	30.752	
4	1	Fernando Alonso		30.793	
5	10	Nico Rosberg		30.949	
6	5	Michael Schumacher	30.951	
7	8	Jarno Trulli		30.970	
8	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	30.977	
9	3	Kimi Räikkönen		30.990	
10	16	Nick Heidfeld		31.019	
11	15	Christian Klien		31.038	
12	9	Mark Webber		31.057	
13	11	Rubens Barrichello	31.094	
14	14	David Coulthard		31.135	
15	17	Jacques Villeneuve	31.161	
16	6	Felipe Massa		31.206	
17	21	Scott Speed		31.463	
18	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	31.465	
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		31.696	
20	19	Christijan Albers	31.961	
21	22	Takuma Sato		33.039	
22	23	Yuji Ide		33.883

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	12	Jenson Button		38.088	
2	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	38.167	
3	5	Michael Schumacher	38.418	
4	1	Fernando Alonso		38.469	
5	9	Mark Webber		38.494	
6	14	David Coulthard		38.508	
7	11	Rubens Barrichello	38.515	
8	3	Kimi Räikkönen		38.555	
9	10	Nico Rosberg		38.586	
10	15	Christian Klien		38.683	
11	7	Ralf Schumacher		38.687	
12	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	38.726	
13	8	Jarno Trulli		38.737	
14	17	Jacques Villeneuve	38.769	
15	6	Felipe Massa		38.864	
16	16	Nick Heidfeld		38.903	
17	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	39.387	
18	21	Scott Speed		39.507	
19	19	Christijan Albers	39.997	
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		40.280	
21	22	Takuma Sato		40.432	
22	23	Yuji Ide		41.020

Speed Trap

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	14:10:15	296.1	
2	16	Nick Heidfeld		14:32:24	295.3	
3	3	Kimi Räikkönen		14:27:39	293.9	
4	14	David Coulthard		14:32:23	293.7	
5	5	Michael Schumacher	14:11:45	293.4	
6	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	14:34:10	293.2	
7	10	Nico Rosberg		14:48:18	292.2	
8	1	Fernando Alonso		14:34:07	291.6	
9	6	Felipe Massa		14:10:13	291.4	
10	17	Jacques Villeneuve	14:23:41	291.1	
11	15	Christian Klien		14:24:22	291.0	
12	12	Jenson Button		14:30:39	290.5	
13	11	Rubens Barrichello	14:25:28	290.2	
14	9	Mark Webber		14:58:47	290.0	
15	21	Scott Speed		14:04:00	286.5	
16	8	Jarno Trulli		14:12:50	286.3	
17	22	Takuma Sato		14:03:21	285.7	
18	19	Christijan Albers	14:04:49	285.4	
19	7	Ralf Schumacher		14:25:01	284.8	
20	23	Yuji Ide		14:05:38	284.5	
21	18	Tiago Monteiro		14:05:04	282.5	
22	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	14:13:43	281.1

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 17:16

Tax Evader said:
What's rather ridiculous is we've now all watched Qualifying but we don't know the 'official' grid order for the race (I know Flibster has had a damn good go at figuring it out, earlier in the thread). That's a bit of a joke really.

However, the McLarens will be up there.

Money where your mouth is time, folks I've gone for a £50 E/W on JPM @ 12/1.

I've gone for £20 on Raikkonen @ 7/2

Montoya was at 13/1 and was deeply considered..*may still go for it..*

Interestingly - Rosberg is at 10/1 and M.Schumacher is at 11/1 to win.

Still trying to figure the grid out as well...

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 18 Mar 2006 at 17:37

Sorry for the delay in all these...been otu test driving cars to replace my Megane Coupe this summer.

Qualifying notes - Toro Rosso

Tonio Liuzzi: "This was a difficult session and the car felt different to the way it did in the morning. On top of this, we misjudged the tactic for my car a bit and we had not left enough time. So when I went out on new tyres I missed getting my timed lap into the 15 minutes by about ten seconds, so although it was quicker it did not count. We did not change anything from the morning, so now we have to find out why it felt different."

Scott Speed: "We did not do anything wrong in terms of my strategy for tackling the session. But I had traffic on both my quick laps. Basically, we have not shown good pace here since the start of the weekend and that shows up most in qualifying. In terms of aero, we are losing out down the straight, but that is partly due to the restriction we run under to comply with the rules."

Gabriele Tredozi (Technical Director): "It is disappointing that we did not get any further than the first part of the session, even though we got quite close to doing so. Even so, this should not reflect on the team or the drivers, who all did a good job this afternoon. On the plus side, I think we are looking good for the race in terms of our tyre and fuel strategy. The race here is always tough one and I think that could work out quite well for us."