2010 F1 regs - quick question

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Just a thought... Cosworth, developing a new engine, presumably have a chance to jump quite seriously ahead if they play it right? Make a good efficient engine and the cars with it fitted will be able to be a nice chunk lighter?

I have no idea how this will work, it be interesting if anyone does.
 
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They save fuel behind a safety car... or at least that's what has been said by commentators this year.

Its common sense they save fuel behind a safety car, they aren't travelling at 190mph plus and using only partial throttle, much like the difference between driving at 90mph and 60mph, 60 will always be more efficient!

Braking zones need to increase to help improve overtaking, the size of them these days is so small there is no chance to outbrake anyone. The no refuelling should be good and could work out quite interesting as teams will try to work out how much fuel they will need to get to the end, hopefully be some teams getting their maths wrong! :D
 
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I have to say I dont like that q3 is low fuel as we will have no idea on Sat relative performance of cars (in the top 10) on race fuel (and the drivers knew how the car was handling a lot better on that level of fuel)

Given that all practice sessions arent usually around hte time of quali or the race track / air temp is likely to be significantly different for most tracks, so even from those times it will be hard to tell, and more time will be spent with low fuel testing bexause another session is with this style of running

Also you have a greater chance of a "trulli train" with the difficulty of overtaking, ie a car specialising in low fuel runs that is a dog with heavy fuel but not slow enough for others to get past (ok it may not be Trulli next year, but principle stands lol)
 
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Braking zones need to increase to help improve overtaking,
shh technology man will step in if your not careful and say how retarded it would be if any aspect of a formula one car was worse than a similar car from any other series.

oh wait he already did about 3 times on the same subject:p

i wonder if he realises some other single seater series have turbos
 
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They decided against banning tyre warmers, which is definitely a good idea. Not only are they (relatively) cheap, it would be incredibly dangerous to send a driver out after a mandatory tyre change on cold tyres during a race.

Huh? I think I am correct in saying every other open wheel series in the world do NOT use tyre warmers and they manage well enough. GP2, Formula BMW, WSR, A1GP, F3 etc... all don't have tyre warmers.
 
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I would be very suprised if (with the way they can dial down power/manage fuel consumption/characteristics of the engine) anyone manages to run out of fuel. Perhaps if they are running very close to the wire, and being pushed to the end of the race for position, it could happen, but the race engineer will need to be shot over it :p
 
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I would be very suprised if (with the way they can dial down power/manage fuel consumption/characteristics of the engine) anyone manages to run out of fuel. Perhaps if they are running very close to the wire, and being pushed to the end of the race for position, it could happen, but the race engineer will need to be shot over it :p

I agree.
 
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shh technology man will step in if your not careful and say how retarded it would be if any aspect of a formula one car was worse than a similar car from any other series.

oh wait he already did about 3 times on the same subject:p

i wonder if he realises some other single seater series have turbos

Did he say anything about steel brakes, do those turbo engines kick out as much BHP as an F1 car. Are those cars faster in any aspect than an F1 car?
 
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did i say anything about steel brakes? obviously a backwords step technology wise if the braking zones are to be artificially extended.

faster in a straight line ;)
 
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did i say anything about steel brakes? obviously a backwords step technology wise if the braking zones are to be artificially extended.

faster in a straight line ;)

you said technology man, related to the steel brake argument the other day.

Increase in fuel will increase breaking zone.

Which series gp2 is 198mph where F1 top speed is 258MPH in the desert and usually race upto 220mph
 
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Frankly most of the changes are just superficial. I've thought for years that the real solution to bring back close racing was limiting the damage that cars to do to airflow out of the back of their own car.

100% agree. The reliance on aerodynamic downforce really does hamper a faster car behind from overtaking a slower car.
 
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