2012 NASCAR thread
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The way it is right now, the progressive banking has turned Bristol into a 2-3 lane track. Cars can run side-by-side all day without really getting all that close to each other. And who wants to watch two-by-two processions at fairly low speeds (compared with larger tracks)?
Before, you had a track that was maybe a lane-and-a-half wide. You could use your bumper to move someone up out of your way if you had big balls, you could pass on the outside tradin' paint if you had even bigger balls, and you could punt them right into the fence if you were Dale Earnhardt Sr
They need to get the cars forced together a bit more. As it is, the progressive banking leaves them free to rumble around quite happily without beating and banging on each other. That's not the Bristol Motor Speedway that we all love.
Martinsville this weekend, Trucks and Cup (no Nationwide race). The track has been likened to a couple of drag strips with a handbrake turn at each end. And there will be close, hard racing there.
Before, you had a track that was maybe a lane-and-a-half wide. You could use your bumper to move someone up out of your way if you had big balls, you could pass on the outside tradin' paint if you had even bigger balls, and you could punt them right into the fence if you were Dale Earnhardt Sr
They need to get the cars forced together a bit more. As it is, the progressive banking leaves them free to rumble around quite happily without beating and banging on each other. That's not the Bristol Motor Speedway that we all love.
Martinsville this weekend, Trucks and Cup (no Nationwide race). The track has been likened to a couple of drag strips with a handbrake turn at each end. And there will be close, hard racing there.
I've never heard a satisfactory argument against it, and plenty of decent arguments for.
I've seen more than one comment on the iRacing forums that NASCAR shouldn't run any road courses at all, let alone adding one to the important bit
Meh, that's only because they can't remember the awesomeness of Riverside....utterly criminal, what was done to that place.
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If anyone wants to watch some classic NASCAR action:
From green flag to now-infamous spot of fisticuffs, the 1979 Daytona 500.
The second points-race of the '79 season (yes, the Daytona 500 didn't used to open the year), it was the first NASCAR race to be shown live, the whole way through, nationwide on US television. Viewers got one hell of a show.
It would probably be a good idea to use a browser extension to save the video, since it's nearly three hours long. But it's worth watching just to see what's changed, and what's stayed the same all those years.
From green flag to now-infamous spot of fisticuffs, the 1979 Daytona 500.
The second points-race of the '79 season (yes, the Daytona 500 didn't used to open the year), it was the first NASCAR race to be shown live, the whole way through, nationwide on US television. Viewers got one hell of a show.
It would probably be a good idea to use a browser extension to save the video, since it's nearly three hours long. But it's worth watching just to see what's changed, and what's stayed the same all those years.
Talladega this weekend, anywhere showing this online, justin.tv's feed has gone
Brian's stream may be up at race time.
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What a surprise, another race on Motors where my sky box stops recording before the end
Guess the red flag knocked your box's timing out.
Eric McClure is being kept in hospital at least overnight. Thankfully the SAFER barrier was there on the inside wall, 'cause he went into it hard.
Vid link.
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It'll only compensate (beyond the usual five minutes or so at the start and end) if the broadcaster in question updates the TV guide on the fly to reflect the change in programme time. I suspect that Motors TV haven't quite gotten the hang of that yet....
So, three of the four manufacturers have shown us what their 2013 Cup cars are going to look like (Chevrolet have said that they'll show their car off "much, much later this year" though a disguised car has turned some laps in testing).
Toyota Camry
Dodge Charger
Ford Fusion
Chevy SS Prototype
The Fusion has also been shown in clay model mock-up form with Wood Brothers #21 paint:
I really hope Dodge manage to get some teams to go with them, that car looks great. Actually, they all do (even the Toyota!).
Toyota Camry
Dodge Charger
Ford Fusion
Chevy SS Prototype
The Fusion has also been shown in clay model mock-up form with Wood Brothers #21 paint:
I really hope Dodge manage to get some teams to go with them, that car looks great. Actually, they all do (even the Toyota!).
It's the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte this weekend, and JRS hasn't posted yet?
I'm afraid that my patience with the Motorsport forum on here is at an all-time low thanks to the F1 race weekend threads and the associated muppetry, hence me dialling back with posting on here (the news about Dany Bahahahahahar aside, couldn't resist that story
).But yeah, the Coca-Cola 600. Longest race of the year. Hopefully the engine builders have got their **** together!
Anyone watch the Cup race at Michigan?
Four years, and two days. That would be the length of time since Junebug won previously (also at Michigan). He ran an outstanding race. Now to see if he can take that and make a run for the Cup out of it!
Four years, and two days. That would be the length of time since Junebug won previously (also at Michigan). He ran an outstanding race. Now to see if he can take that and make a run for the Cup out of it!
It is aerodynamic. As for why it's present when the cars are in road course configuration - most road courses are clockwise (Sears Point and the Glen certainly are), so it still provides a benefit
El_Watcher said:And everyone thought Piquet Jr would never get a race seat again after crashgate and he wins at Road America
He drove really well. I've been impressed with him in the Truck series so far, just got to see him and Montoya both win on ovals now!
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sr4470 said:
Ain't that the truth? Like I've said before, one of the essential truths of NASCAR fandom - Danica sucks, any crash is her fault even when it isn't, yadda yadda yadda. Try and tell most NASCAR fans that she's a good driver, and you'll end up with a metric ****-tonne of poorly spelled abuse and misogyny
sr4470 said:Where's JRS and his comprehensive commentary on the Cup races?
I'm still around. Like I said back at the end of May - my patience with this place is at an all-time low, so I'm not posting quite as much. I also missed watching the Sears Point race, as my internet connection wasn't good enough to stream it.
This bit of news took me by surprise - Matt Kenseth to part ways with Roush Fenway Racing at the end of the year. I know it's been brewing for a while, but I'm still a bit surprised. Hopefully it does mean that Trevor Bayne will get a full-time Nationwide run next year now.
Apparently the ink is already on a contract somewhere for 2013.
Just shows a) how wobbly the US economy is or b) how NASCAR isn't the almighty sponsor draw it once was when one of the best drivers in one of the best teams can't get a full-time sponsor (Matt's #17 hasn't had one since Crown Royal pulled out at the back end of last year).
I sometimes forget that not many people on here are as 'up' on NASCAR's history as I am
Roush Racing started out in NASCAR in '88 with Mark Martin in the #6 car. They got several top-10 finishes that year. In '89, they won six poles, finished in the top-10 eighteen times and won a race. Then in 1990, they were narrowly beaten (but for a penalty earlier in the season) by Dale Earnhardt for the title. They came close to winning the title several more times in the '90s before Matt Kenseth won it in 2003. As of the Daytona 500 this year, they have 300 victories to their name in NASCAR's three major series.
Right, you know the song 'n' dance that's been made about how we had seven different winners in the first seven races in F1 this year, with Alonso the first repeat winner 8 races in? Thursday night, there was a Truck race at Kentucky. James Buescher won. He's the first repeat winner of 2012 in the Camping World Truck Series.
In the 8th race of the season.
Longest the Truck series had gone without a repeat winner beforehand IIRC was back in '04 - Dennis Setzer won round 5 then round 7.
Other bits about the race:
1) Back to Earth with a literal bump for NPJr - got taken out in a three truck wreck. Todd Bodine dived inside Justin Lofton at Turn 1 on lap 69, Bodine's truck got loose and he wobbled up into Lofton, Lofton ran up into Piquet and put him into the wall. Rough deal, but that's what happens sometimes when you're racing in close quarters.
2) The truck Buescher won in? Exact same chassis that he won with at Kansas in April.
3) After Lofton's troubles, Tim Peters now leads the championship. Looks like he's building on the strong run he had last year. That's five top-5 finishes now in the 8 races this season.
In the 8th race of the season.
Longest the Truck series had gone without a repeat winner beforehand IIRC was back in '04 - Dennis Setzer won round 5 then round 7.
Other bits about the race:
1) Back to Earth with a literal bump for NPJr - got taken out in a three truck wreck. Todd Bodine dived inside Justin Lofton at Turn 1 on lap 69, Bodine's truck got loose and he wobbled up into Lofton, Lofton ran up into Piquet and put him into the wall. Rough deal, but that's what happens sometimes when you're racing in close quarters.
2) The truck Buescher won in? Exact same chassis that he won with at Kansas in April.
3) After Lofton's troubles, Tim Peters now leads the championship. Looks like he's building on the strong run he had last year. That's five top-5 finishes now in the 8 races this season.
Not as far as I know.
Regular season is one thing, the Chase is another. If he gets off to a good start in the run to the Cup, then I agree he'll be tough to beat. But plenty of drivers before have had momentum going into the Chase and fallen woefully short!
No shocker.
Ditto!
Was still an enjoyable night watching. I was really sorry to see Awesome Bill From Dawsonville get knocked out. After he qualified up the order I thought we might see something out of the history books - a fast run at a superspeedway by Bill Elliott
Oh, and not wanting to knock someone before all the facts are in, but AJ Allmendinger - I really hope it's not true, and he hasn't done anything dumb.