2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers and International Friendlies ** Spoilers ** [11th - 15th November 201
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'Omg, Southgate's amazing, give him the job forthwith!' after beating one of the worst international football teams in the world.
I had sturridge first scorer, 2-0. Screw you cahill!
Scrappy game. Scotland fans were ace though. So many kilts!
Flattering result against a team lacking in quality.
Kilts everywhere, boisterous/drunk on the way to the stadium, booed the National Anthem but so did our fans. Taunted our fans and even some of the stewards joined in with 'Stand up if you hate Scotland'. Very noisy throughout the game, yes, a great set of fans.
You had a different experience to me then. We encountered some good groups in and around the stadium. The booing was pathetic but hey, it's football, it's followed by a lot of morons.
Thats being generous to England - Scotland really should have scored twice within the first 20 minutes or there abouts, Stones started the ball rolling within about 2 minutes for giving the ball away cheaply on the half way line.
I might watch the whole of the Spain match for comedy value alone
Cant see how there can be any punishment, as the Poppy isnt isnt relevant in regards to ......Article 4 (I think)
Its not religeious, commercial or political in any way (which are redeeming factors in the associated law by Fifa) so its a bizare one if the FA / team are punished.
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The English FA voted to ban political slogans on shirts; they literally voted for this. Furthermore, England have played at this time in the past and not worn poppies.
The entire thing is due to the rise of nationalism over the past few years; it has only become a thing due to the tabloid media pushing nationalistic headlines, and stories.
FIFA could send a message and deduct points, (I would).
While 'the poppy' might mean something within the British Isles, what is to stop another country having the same argument in regards to celebrating something that they deem important.
Anyway; as has already been mentioned, England are staggeringly average, Scotland are even worse, both countries are on the look out for a new manager (and hopefully long term investment and changes in coaching and attitude to young footballers).
Absolutely love the commentators and pundits on ITV talking about Southgate 'wanting' the new job and how this period is to be used as a great interview, despite Southgate saying he does not want the job
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Are the Welsh fans booing because they think the guy was faking, as they were jeering when he finally got to his feet... still with blood literally streaming down his face and neck. Pretty nasty kick, commentators can't work out why the ref treated a high foot that DIDN'T make contact and a high foot that utterly smashed a player in the face differently... and neither could Bale.
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Scottish "Football" can be summarised in three very appropriate letters:- LOL
Its not a political statement (its rememberance pure and simple, irrespective of politics, commercialism or religion) in the slightest so your first comment is completely irrelevant
They probably also got slammed for not wearing it in the past because of the above - now you want to penalise them for doing the right thing?
The poppy over here has been a symbol of rememberence for 100 years give or take, absolutely nothing wrong with wearing it , and further more nothing in the rules which states they should be punished for it.
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Well our outcasts are doing well, Depay came on and scored twice and sounds like Mkhi had a great game.
Really happy for them, but the nature of internationals and EPL ( and possibly other top leagues) is completely different level of competitiveness
Any given player usually gets a lot more time on the ball in internationals than in any given league game.
Really glad to hear they got minutes under their belt (and Blind even assisted one of Depay's goals as well).
England played Sweden (2001) the day before Armistice Day, no poppies were worn, nor armbands and there was no outrage from either the F.A or the tabloid media.
England played on Armistice Day in 1987, no poppies, arm bands and no outrage. England played Scotland (1999) two days after Armistice Day and there were no poppies in sight.
There are examples of no poppies being worn on Armistice Day historically, with no outrage, the 'outrage' only started in ~2010~, and as for not being political, May clearly used the poppy and the England team as political capital (politicians, politics).
Similarly; while I understand why the poppies are worn, it should be a personal choice (players should be able to decide to wear them or not).
So while on Armistice Day poppies are worn to remember the death of military service people, who died defending 'freedom', and the signing of the Armistice between the Allies and Germany in 1918.
It is a political symbol. What is to stop Russia wanting to wear a symbol to represent a historical military victory in their history (for example), would that be ok? Even if they have used it as a symbol of remembrance for ~100 years.
You cannot pick and decide; which symbols are allowed. FIFA are correct, you ban all symbols, nobody gets favour. Easy.
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How come none of the other games are on TV?