20x10 Shed, need base!

Lt_Red · 28 May 2015 at 15:53

Abyss said:
Also bear in mind that a shed this size will require building regulations approval if it is within 1m of a boundary given it is greater than 15m2. E.g. Snaggle's shed likely required approval if the fence next to the shed is his boundary.

Only if it has sleeping accommodation but it may need planning consent.

chief barker · 28 May 2015 at 17:46

Snaggle said:
creocote.

Is that the dark creocote?

Lopéz · 28 May 2015 at 18:23

Lt_Red said:
Only if it has sleeping accommodation but it may need planning consent.

No he's right, outbuildings larger than 15m2, within 1m of a boundary, and made of wood need building regs (not planning consent)

Abyss · 29 May 2015 at 14:19

Lt_Red said:
Only if it has sleeping accommodation

Inaccurate. It needs building regulations approval regardless of whether it is sleeping accommodation if it is within 1m of the boundary.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings/

If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building contains NO sleeping accommodation and is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

Lt_Red said:
it may need planning consent.

It is unlikely to need planning consent as long as the below limits/conditions are met

Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

- No outbuilding on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation.
- Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
- Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.
- No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
- No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
- In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
- On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
- Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.

Lt_Red · 29 May 2015 at 15:11

HOLY CARP! my Log cabin needs building regs!!! What a muppet... *starts to panic...

What...wait... and I didn't need planning permission??? Oh my god I am such a noob...

Has this stuff changed since 2011 or am I truly an idiot?

snappyfish · 17 Jun 2015 at 19:42

Anyone used this for a large shed 20 x 10

Eco Base

Snaggle · 17 Jun 2015 at 21:01

snappyfish said:
Anyone used this for a large shed 20 x 10

Eco Base

I did look at it but thought it was expensive for what it was

Maccapacca · 17 Jun 2015 at 22:00

You're buying a big shed man. Do a proper job of it.

You sound like my mate. Went to all the trouble of buying the cheapest biggest shed he could find and sitting it on timbers. The things rotten, roof sagging and you can't close the doors properly oh and the chipboard floor falls through as you walk over it. All this in a few years.

Buy cheap buy twice

snappyfish · 21 Jun 2015 at 00:21

maccapacca said:
You're buying a big shed man. Do a proper job of it.

You sound like my mate. Went to all the trouble of buying the cheapest biggest shed he could find and sitting it on timbers. The things rotten, roof sagging and you can't close the doors properly oh and the chipboard floor falls through as you walk over it. All this in a few years.

Buy cheap buy twice

you talking about the base?

snappyfish · 20 Jul 2015 at 14:58

I thought id upload the current area I want to put my 20x10 shed - here is a pic of my current (awful) shed which was previously put there by someone else.

As you can see a patio of 15x9 foot. I want the new shed base to be 20x10 what would you do to make the new base considering what is there already?

bitslice · 20 Jul 2015 at 16:00

Why not resite the shed right at the back, saves taking up what looks like a sunny bit of land.

snappyfish · 20 Jul 2015 at 16:14

bitslice said:
Why not resite the shed right at the back, saves taking up what looks like a sunny bit of land.

Yes thinking that also, but how would I tackle the the base? considering there is a part patio there already.

Would I just dig around the current patio and back to the right and then add mot type 1 & sharp sand then patio slabs?

bitslice · 20 Jul 2015 at 20:21

snappyfish said:
Would I just dig around the current patio and back to the right and then add mot type 1 & sharp sand then patio slabs?

Yep, you don't need a pristine base for these things, just so the points of contact are roughly level and off the bare soil.
Patio slabs on earth, with a bit of sand underneath for levelling will be just as good.

snappyfish · 27 Mar 2016 at 22:46

... well never started this last year, This year have started moving some hedges and digging out roots etc

Anyone used this company looking at an 18x10

DXP55 · 28 Mar 2016 at 09:58

Don't forget to put a bit of duct in base in case you want power - just in a corner - down and out of base..

As said do it right do it once. - If you can work it out try and make base inch shorter than shed all round - water will miss concrete when it runs off shed and base shouldn't get too wet under shed.

The lad who did my oil tank base hired click together shuttering.

Regy53 · 28 Mar 2016 at 10:18

we had a 20x10 shed built in november. Cost £1300 i think 16mm. Including delivery and building also built to my spec

Cant help with a base

snappyfish · 28 Mar 2016 at 10:26

DXP55 said:
Don't forget to put a bit of duct in base in case you want power - just in a corner - down and out of base..

As said do it right do it once. - If you can work it out try and make base inch shorter than shed all round - water will miss concrete when it runs off shed and base shouldn't get too wet under shed.

The lad who did my oil tank base hired click together shuttering.

Going to make a paving slab base, 900x600 50mm

snappyfish · 28 Mar 2016 at 10:27

Regy53 said:
we had a 20x10 shed built in november. Cost £1300 i think 16mm. Including delivery and building also built to my spec

Cant help with a base

But what base did you put it on? Who build the shed for you?

Regy53 · 28 Mar 2016 at 11:11

snappyfish said:
But what base did you put it on? Who build the shed for you?

Hi

we had a concrete base when we moved in so that was a plus

was a company called AT sheds, found them advertising smaller sheds on ebay. they were very good and arrived on a set day, two lads put it up in a few hours and they were away

Deleted member 66701 · 28 Mar 2016 at 14:10

You can just about see the concrete base I got laid for my shed/playhouse here:-

Dug out to 20 cm, 10cm of crush and mix then 10cm readymix concrete on top, shuttered with 4x2. Local gardener/landscaper did it for £400.

Shed/playhouse is 14ftx7ft (shed 5x7 and playhouse 7x7) and base is 17ft wide and 8ft deep on the left side, 11ft deep on right (back of garden angles away towards the garage). 1ft is enough to get down the side of the shed/playhouse for maintainence.

20x10 Shed, need base!

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