2700x holding back 6800XT?

Dirk Diggler · 20 Aug 2023 at 15:32

I've just gifted my brother my 6800XT and his system has a 2700x and monitor is 2560*1080 resolution @ 120Hz

I didn't get a lot of time to test, but the few games that I did test, performance wasn't what I was expecting - some games were not utilising the GPU 100% and when it did hit 100% in e.g. Ghost Recon then there was some hitching going on.

Is the 2700x a big bottleneck? The card it replaced was a 1080ti so maybe there's a driver conflict? I did clean with DDU but you never know..

Edit to add before and after benchmarks:

Timsespy

Firestrike

Tetras · 20 Aug 2023 at 15:48

In some games it will be, yes, especially @ 1080p. But, I'd still expect the games to run 'alright', so I guess it depends what you mean by hitching.

welshrat · 20 Aug 2023 at 15:49

When I bought my son a 6600xt I noticed quite a bottleneck on his 2600 and so I upgraded him to a 3600x which helped loads. My youngest is running a 2600 with a 6700 non xt and hits 60fps most of the time but still gets CPU bottleneck on some games. I would suggest a 5700x or above will improve things a great deal.

Dirk Diggler · 20 Aug 2023 at 16:13

Tetras said:
In some games it will be, yes, especially @ 1080p. But, I'd still expect the games to run 'alright', so I guess it depends what you mean by hitching.

By hitching, I mean when the camera pans it can pause for a split second.

welshrat said:
When I bought my son a 6600xt I noticed quite a bottleneck on his 2600 and so I upgraded him to a 3600x which helped loads. My youngest is running a 2600 with a 6700 non xt and hits 60fps most of the time but still gets CPU bottleneck on some games. I would suggest a 5700x or above will improve things a great deal.

I've got a 3700x here that I could drop in but not sure if that'll make a big difference or if I'd be best trying to pick up a 5000 series.

welshrat · 20 Aug 2023 at 16:14

Dirk Diggler said:
By hitching, I mean when the camera pans it can pause for a split second.

I've got a 3700x here that I could drop in but not sure if that'll make a big difference or if I'd be best trying to pick up a 5000 series.

Got to be worth an hour of your time just to see if it improves things and then make the decision.

I had a 3700x prior to my 5900x and it ran things well enough but 5 series made a big difference

Sone · 20 Aug 2023 at 21:30

I think people forget how bad first and second gen ryzen were... In gaming terms 3rd/4th gen intel at best. 3rd gen got competitive and 5th gen finally got on top.

Edit: in gaming terms only

theforce · 20 Aug 2023 at 22:42

I don't game but my home PC's 3900x feels faster than the 2700x system l am using at work. Hopefully, there will be some nice deals on 5800x/5900x on Black Friday.

Thaifood · 21 Aug 2023 at 00:09

With a 6800xt I would pair it with a 5700x minimum really. Should complement each other well.

dave28 · 21 Aug 2023 at 00:21

the 5900X are really strong gaming CPU`s or the 5800X3D

the 5600X is still quite good though, it would do ok with a 6800XT

the 2700X is not a great match and would hold back the GPU to some degree

Wing-Man · 21 Aug 2023 at 19:22

The 3000 chips are a lot better than the 2000, also they support faster ram and Ryzen loves faster ram.

Defo with the upgrad, do it

tamzzy · 21 Aug 2023 at 19:32

update the bios and stick a 5800x3d in there...not an expensive outlay if bought from the MM or vouchers via cex (from MM)

Dirk Diggler · 21 Aug 2023 at 20:51

I'm going to drop in the 3700x and keep my eyes peeled for a 5000 series.

tamzzy · 21 Aug 2023 at 21:42

Dirk Diggler said:
I'm going to drop in the 3700x and keep my eyes peeled for a 5000 series.

Not a bad compromise if you already have a 3700x. But if you need to buy a 3700x, better off getting a 5600/X instead, which should not be too much more than the 3700x

Wing-Man · 21 Aug 2023 at 21:44

Dirk Diggler said:
I'm going to drop in the 3700x and keep my eyes peeled for a 5000 series.

Your next upgrade should be a 5800x3d.
But the 3700x will be a nice upgrade.

What ram do you have. Most if not all 3000 can run 3600mhz ram and if your not you should.

Dirk Diggler · 23 Aug 2023 at 11:52

What kind of difference would a 5700g make? I'm not up to speed with the "g" chips; they've got integrated graphics capability, right?

mickyflinn · 23 Aug 2023 at 12:16

Dirk Diggler said:
What kind of difference would a 5700g make? I'm not up to speed with the "g" chips; they've got integrated graphics capability, right?

5700g does have intergrated graphics but is pcie3 only not that will make a difference but
It's Not enough performance boost imo the x3d is the best choice due to its huge v cache.

Tetras · 23 Aug 2023 at 17:39

Dirk Diggler said:
What kind of difference would a 5700g make? I'm not up to speed with the "g" chips; they've got integrated graphics capability, right?

It's not only the graphics, they use a different core with less (half the) cache. I wouldn't buy one if you intend to use a DGPU.

jigger · 23 Aug 2023 at 20:02

Dirk Diggler said:
What kind of difference would a 5700g make? I'm not up to speed with the "g" chips; they've got integrated graphics capability, right?

The 5700G is pretty dam quick. Way quicker that a 2700X.

humbug · 24 Aug 2023 at 11:10

Tetras said:
It's not only the graphics, they use a different core with less (half the) cache. I wouldn't buy one if you intend to use a DGPU.

This, get a normal 5700 is you can.

Wing-Man · 24 Aug 2023 at 21:07

Dirk Diggler said:
What kind of difference would a 5700g make? I'm not up to speed with the "g" chips; they've got integrated graphics capability, right?

if you already have it... it will be faster than a 3XXX chip. but if your buying then get a none G, the 5600(£100 used) is a fast little cpu you dont need a 5700.

did you drop in the 3700x? i dont see the 3700x holding back the GPU.
run some bench marks and see how you get on