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2700x Temperature Reading Anomaly (-10, -57, +107 & +196)

Guys I'm having a bit of a nightmare tonight!

Getting the rig ready for the new PSU and GPU coming back as well as installing the h150i pro I went to remove the heat sink and the cpu came with it!

Pins are all straight and it went back in fine but will this have likely damaged the socket?

Can't believe it the thermal paste on the stock cooler was pretty much welded on, never seen anything like it!
 
Rig rebuilt with RM850x.

Oddness so far is one of my mechanical hard drives isn't showing but I did change the SATA cable out so must be a faulty cable or something. That and it took a really long time to actually shut down on the first try which I've never seen before, shut down as normal second time.

Now just leaving it running Kerbal to see how stable it is, fingers crossed.
 
Ok so after an evening of running I have not had the hard crash yet but going to leave it running overnight to try and confirm this.

Did notice in HWinfo64 however that the GPU shows the following readings:-
Performance Limit - Power (Maximum) Yes
Performance Limit - Reliability Voltage (Maximum) Yes
Performance Limit - Utilisation (Current & Maximum) Yes
Total GPU Power (normalised) [% of TDP] (Maximum) 109%
Total GPU Power [% of TDP] (Maximum) 110.6%

Now from a bit of reading that is just it hitting its max allowed on the stock clocks but didn't know if this might be signs of an issue, only experience these readings whilst under heavy load in games. At desktop all but Performance Limit - Utilisation are on No in the current readings.

In terms of the Motherboard voltage readings I am seeing slightly higher readings than I was getting with the RM750x.
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Don't want to jynx myself but happily the rig ran all last night for just over 9 hours without hard crash. Only odd thing was gpu fans (2 out of the 3) were on this morning which I noticed as fan off light was off but after a quick run of heaven benchmark all 3 kicked off as they should and turned off correctly as it cooled again.

Going to continue to use this week to try and make sure hard crash is gone.

Temp anomalies still present in ryzen master but still nothing odd showing in HWinfo64 so hoping I can put this down to software glitch.

Other than PSU the only differences this time was not plugging in either the front io usb 3 or usb c connectors as the usb 3 wouldn't go in nice and straight due to case design and usb c had a 180 fold / kink in cable from cable management. Other than that I left the case's cable management shield off so that no unnecessary pressure is being put on the cables for a side of the case I don't look at.

Wish me luck!

EDIT: Also software wise I left the Aorus engine off and just installed the Nvidia drivers, this could explain the gpu fans unusual behaviour but nothing to worry about if it's stable!
 
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Having same issue here, Will post specs first.

Ryzen 2700x
Motherboard - MSI gaming x470
Vega 56 GPU
Hyperx 16gb 2400 ram
XFX 650W PSU
Silverstone raven RV02 case so shouldn't be no issues with air flow.


Idle or gaming, a constant -10 on 4 cores, this ive noticed for a while in Coretemp in the toolbar now even with my old gpu. I went out and left my PC, say for half hour. was playing rust and doing a load of crafting so just left myself AFK. Came back to fans what sounded like spinning at fall pelt, tabbed out and checked gpu-z which i had running, temps for the GPU (Vega 56) at around 60c so pretty normal, cpu temp - 196c. Straight away i logged out and let everything calm down. Done a google and it brought me here. Had a read through the thread and it sounds like you've had a nightmare RMAing stuff and it still not been sorted.

I dont think its a gpu issue as ive only just got the vega on the deal last week and had an RX580 before and that also showed the -10 temp, i just assumed it was down to coretemp playing silly buggers, but now got the same reading in gpuz. Never had the 196c temp and the system fans go into jet mode before tonight tho.

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I was just about to post in here to say that the worst of my two issues (hard crash) seems to now have been resolved with the PSU change so touch wood this now wont come back.

However if you are getting the same temp anomalies I would recommend using HWinfo64 for monitoring as I have not once had any of these unusual temp readings display on there whilst I will still get them consistently using Ryzen Master to monitor and in the past on very rare occasions they would show in GPU-Z.

However my rig has never seemed to react in any way to the temp anomalies and the hard crash issue i thought may have been related seems to have been cured with the new PSU (touch wood), and any time I have had the temp anomalies they only last for a second or less on the reading and return back to normal not constant?

At this stage I have pretty much replaced / had tested every component in the rig (except the ram which passed memtest and awaiting results on the original PSU RMA) and whilst thankfully the hard crash issue seems to be gone the temp anomalies have remained through-out all these changes.
 
Ive not had any system crashes, just the abnormal temps. I just run a heaven benchmark, pretty normal readings, gpu temp 69c, and cpu of 59c. The gpu fans never went above 40%, its the CPU that is going fall chat, and i didnt have anything running to monitor cpu fan speed, (stock ryzen 7 cooler)

I might also swap my PSU out, but i dont think its that. Ive got another xfx 650w in my sons and my daughters got an EVGA in hers, so might go with the EVGA first.

I will give a try, cheers.

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Uninstalled coretemp, GPU-z and some other monitor i didnt know i had. Back on rust gaming for an hour and no issues, steady temps of 55c gpu and 60c cpu respectively, fans sounded fine.

I think its down to coretemp and gpuz, coretemp has always shown the -10 for a while now, and i only installed gpuz the other day when i got the vega 56. They're probably just buggy. What you mentioned, (HWinfo64) download and run it, seems to show the true values.
 
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JAW_Jontain said:
I was just about to post in here to say that the worst of my two issues (hard crash) seems to now have been resolved with the PSU change so touch wood this now wont come back.

However if you are getting the same temp anomalies I would recommend using HWinfo64 for monitoring as I have not once had any of these unusual temp readings display on there whilst I will still get them consistently using Ryzen Master to monitor and in the past on very rare occasions they would show in GPU-Z.

However my rig has never seemed to react in any way to the temp anomalies and the hard crash issue i thought may have been related seems to have been cured with the new PSU (touch wood), and any time I have had the temp anomalies they only last for a second or less on the reading and return back to normal not constant?

At this stage I have pretty much replaced / had tested every component in the rig (except the ram which passed memtest and awaiting results on the original PSU RMA) and whilst thankfully the hard crash issue seems to be gone the temp anomalies have remained through-out all these changes.
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Have you tried applying a negative offset on the CPU Vcore. I see a spike of over 1.5V on the core voltage (SVI2). Try -0.05v offset. Maybe a little higher so long as your system stays stable. Might even get a higher boost.
 
So I was hoping this was put to rest but this evening after booting up my PC and leaving it for a little while on desktop I came back to find that it had hard crashed as before...

Only things that have happened / I have done recently are installing the Aorus Software again (after not having it installed since the new psu went in) which I have now just uninstalled and last night we had a power cut (pc was off at the time).

Slightly worried that it has seemed stable since replacing the PSU with only the odd crash to desktop during gaming which I had put down to the games themselves just having the odd issue as it was nothing frequent... However this evening when booting on I did notice the GPU LED's didn't light up straight away and now that I have uninstalled the Aorus software / RGB fusion on the next boot up I now have no lights at all.

Only yesterday the rig ran for 22 hours without issue and now this... kinda beside myself at this point.
 
So have been running for 22 and a half hours since last nights hard crash (without aorus engine) but have just noticed this in HWinfo64.

It would appear that the anomalous readings do register here but very rarely in comparison to Ryzen Master... not feeling confident.
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You swapped out the mobo already, I think?, did you ever get a chance to test a different CPU?

It the weirdest temp problem I’ve ever seen TBH. Usually things are running too hot if there are problems, not registering unbelievably low temps.
 
I'm at my wits end with it to be honest. So far I have replaced:
CPU
Motherboard
PSU
CPU cooler

On top of that I have ticked off so many other random things it might have been but too many to list but include GPU and RAM being tested and many software / cable component removing.

I am now thinking that the hard crashing is either a result of the Aorus engine software or that when the motherboard sensor pics up on one of the high temp readings (as they don't seem to be picking up on all sensors at the same time) then thermal shutdowns as it thinks the cpu has overheated.

All guess work but at this stage I am pretty defeated by it all, hate to say it but really put off ever building another PC after all of this.
 
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Only thing I can think of is to replace the mobo with a completely different model.

I know you replaced it already but I assume that was a like for like swap via an RMA?

Clutching at straws really but there’s got to be an explanation somewhere.
 
I still think the temp readings are unrelated, I have just made a quick search online and it brings up enough results regarding the Aorus software with hard crashes that I would be inclined to run it without for the next month and see how it goes.

Same goes for me with Asus suite, I never have and never will install it after reading the issues online.
 
Well its been just under a month without the Aorus software (no Asus suite installed) and was starting to get hopeful but it would appear that it hard crashed again tonight. Wasn't at the PC when it happened this time but came back to it to find it at the windows login screen which must mean when it does hard crash if its left long enough it will reboot itself which i suppose is better than killing it at the PSU.

Event Viewer just shows a critical error (Event ID: 41 Kernel-Power) as before.

Only other development is that for some reason I can see one of my ssd showing what i can only presume to be a temp anomaly as well as it usually constantly at around 33-36 yet its peak temp tonight is showing in red at 246 in HWinfo64...

I can only conclude that these random temperature readings are not always being picked up consistently by each sensor but when the cpu temps of +90 are recorded by whichever senor governs the thermal lock out it just trips.

Still no closer to finding a solution, made even more frustrating that after nearly a month solid of stable running I invested in a HTC Vive which was one of the reasons I specced this PC as high as I did. It seems to be a lot rarer of an issue than it was before and I hope it stays that way as it looks like I am just going to have to live with it, as frustrating as it is I have no idea what else I can test unless it is somehow down to the case itself but as I've said before I would think and hope a shorting/grounding issue would be much more frequent and a much larger problem.
 
HRL said:
Only thing I can think of is to replace the mobo with a completely different model.

I know you replaced it already but I assume that was a like for like swap via an RMA?

Clutching at straws really but there’s got to be an explanation somewhere.
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Sorry i never replied to this but yes it was RMA'd for a replacement X370-f, the thing is OCUK must have sold enough of these bundles by now to have seen this issue with someone else, I obviously have bad luck but I can't be so unlucky that I had two faulty boards with the exact same issue after replacing CPU, CPU cooler, Mobo, PSU & having GPU checked along with the RAM passing all memtests... can I?
 
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