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2GB Vram The Minimum. Really?

Buy me the game and I might do that for you.

What exactly is an afterburner log going to prove? Its not going to show any higher than 1 gb usage on 1 gb vram.
 
(Just noticed I put this in the wrong thread earlier)
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Both the 560ti and 6870 cards in the above graph are 1Gb variants, both get about a ~50% minimum fps performance hit in Sli/CrossFire compared to a single 2Gb 6950.

At the very least, your 8Gb system ram argument(which, in this case would still achieve an overhead lag) is flawed, as by your reasoning 1GB gpu's have a higher system requirement being required for optimal performance.

I don't see a 2 gb 560 ti anywhere on your provided graph. Please read a bit better and find me a legitimate comparison of 1 vs 2 gb vram on a gtx 560 ti.

Its also not running at a 5 FPS slideshow as people are claiming it does on a 1 Gb 560 ti SLI setup. The graph doesnt show how often the gameplay dips to the min FPS, which is most likely hardly ever and un noticable.
 
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So please show me where a 2 Gb GTX 560 ti has been tested alongside a 1 Gb GTX 560 ti in Bf3 ultra preset? Thats what I asked you for and no you didnt provide it.

A single 2GB 6950 with higher minimum fps than 560ti SLI on everything ultra@1080p is a clear enough indication for anyone of the effects of vram limitations in BF3!

No its not, they are completely different GPUs and the 6950 is faster than a GTX 560 ti.

You cant compare Vram using different GPUs, I dont know how simple such a request can be to provide a Vram comparison of 1 vs 2 Gb using THE SAME GPU

At the very least, your 8Gb system ram argument(which, in this case would still achieve an overhead lag) is flawed, as by your reasoning 1GB gpu's have a higher system requirement being required for optimal performance.

8 Gb ram is super cheap and no one should have any less for gaming. BF3 will use around 4.5 Gb system ram + shared graphics memory making 8 Gb minimum a requirement for any setup. Its far more important and easier / cheaper to increase your system ram before you increase your Vram.

I'll take a wild guess and assume that the results you provided didnt use a PC with at least 8 Gb ram.
 
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So please show me where a 2 Gb GTX 560 ti has been tested alongside a 1 Gb GTX 560 ti in Bf3 ultra preset? Thats what I asked you for and no you didnt provide it.

I don't know who is right and who is wrong but if there are no comparable tests then both sides of the arguement could be right or wrong.

You're asking them to prove 2GB gives better performance but you can't prove it doesn't.

Other than you those discussing this matter at least seem to have played the game and have some personal experience to speak from.
 
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I don't know who is right and who is wrong but if there are no comparable tests then both sides of the arguement could be right or wrong.

You're asking them to prove 2GB gives better performance but you can't prove it doesn't.

Other than you those discussing this matter seem to have played the game and have some personal experience to speak from.

2 Gb GTX 560 tis will give a better performance than 1 Gb GTX 560 tis.

I havnt stated once that the difference between the two would be zero.

It wont be anywhere near as significant as people claim it is on a system with at least 8 Gb ram. The difference will only be less than 5 FPS.

If you want a significant performance boost for BF3 at 1080p resolution over a 1 Gb GTX 560 ti, then you buy a GTX 570, not a 2 Gb GTX 560 ti.

Other people on this forum have personal experience with playing BF3 on 1 Gb cards, and it doesnt run at the 5 FPS slideshow that others are claiming it does in this thread (nor does it in any single review).

*This post will be 100% ignored by people trying to simply defend their 2-3 Gb video cards, which only perform better because they have a far more powerful GPU.
 
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2 Gb GTX 560 tis will give a better performance than 1 Gb GTX 560 tis.

It wont be anywhere near as significant as people claim it is on a system with at least 8 Gb ram. The difference will only be less than 5 FPS.

I havnt stated once that the difference between the two would be zero.

That's a fine and dandy opinion.

Now show us the comparative tests which show that in Bf3 with the ultra preset.
 
I asked you about the GTX 560Ti which is what this thread seems to have developed into discussing.

Thats what I'm asking people to provide as I havnt seen it done yet?

I'll change my opinion if I see valid evidence that proves me wrong. Until then I will continue to compare 1 Gb vs 2 Gb HD 6950s as this is the only valid comparison I can find regarding Vram, and the difference in any game including BF3 is minuscule.

Why would I buy, or recommend the 2 Gb GTX 560 ti to anyone when the 1280 Mb GTX 560 ti 448 is better at everything?
 
Thats what I'm asking people to provide as I havnt seen it done yet?

I'll change my opinion if I see valid evidence that proves me wrong. Until then I will continue to compare 1 Gb vs 2 Gb HD 6950s as this is the only valid comparison I can find regarding Vram, and the difference in any game including BF3 is minuscule.

Which was my point entirely.

You're arguing with people based on conclusions drawn from tests on a different card.

You may be right, you may be wrong, but you're in no better position to provide evidence about the 1GB v 2GB GTX 560 Ti than anyone else.
 
Ok then, if 2 Gb vram is a minimum, why does a 1280 Mb GTX 570 run the game better than a 2 Gb 6950?

I hope you're not expecting me to answer that.

As I stated at the beginning all I was commenting on was the lack of comparable evidence of a 1GB GTX 560 Ti v a 2 GB GTX 560Ti from both sides of the argument.

I've not said either opinion is right or wrong and I've not sought to support either side.

So beyond what I've said already I'm not getting involved.
 
But I'm sure you can conclude whether or not 2 Gb Vram is a minimum based on the performance figures of the 1280 Mb GTX 570?

What about the 1.5 Gb GTX 580, is this no longer suitable for gaming at 1080p as this thread is suggesting?
 
But I'm sure you can conclude whether or not 2 Gb Vram is a minimum based on the performance figures of the 1280 Mb GTX 570?

What about the 1.5 Gb GTX 580, is this no longer suitable for gaming at 1080p as this thread is debating?

If you read my posts I entered this discussion to make a point about the lack of evidence from both sides regarding a 1GB GTX 560 Ti v a 2 GB GTX 560Ti.

I've made my point and beyond that I don't wish to get involved any further in another one of those discussions that could just go on and on.
 
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