And how does putting fuel prices up help the economy?
Thats right, it doesnt, it hurts the economy by putting the price of everything else up again.
Brown and his party are a bunch of thieving *****.
2p tax on petrol.....again
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And how does putting fuel prices up help the economy?
Thats right, it doesnt, it hurts the economy by putting the price of everything else up again.
Brown and his party are a bunch of thieving *****.
Soldato
They government will have more money to pay out more in unemployment benefits (today we recorded 2m unemployed) and invest in infrastructure to create more jobs.
You'll find that the benefits from better infrastructure far outweigh the negatives from the average person paying 2p more a litre of fuel.
Oh yeah, because he uses all of these taxes to increase his salary. He really is thieving. I've never understood while people accuse the government of "robbery" and "theft" when the money, for the vast majority of people, goes straight back to the people.
The lack of any smilies or hidden text lead me to believe you may well be serious. Maybe its time the government sorted out where all the money is actually going? Endlessly throwing money away to no avail to sort out problems it has played a large part in creating. Sadly it wont happen as to those in charge all these small increases here and there dont actually affect them.
And put another x thousand out of jobs due to fuel being the underpinning of society. put fuel up, everything else costs more at every point.
HA-HA it doesn't go straight back to the people. it gets wasted in paper work and stupid schemes.
The government need to but out of things that do not concern them and concentrate on the things that do. That way they could cut taxes by a large amount.
Soldato
WHAT!!
Most fuel is bought by businesses, pretty much everything in this country moves by road. This could be the difference of life and death for many of our hauliers.
And the extra won't be spend on infrastructure. It'll just go into plugging the gaps left because tax revenues have fallen people lass people are working.
It's well known this government don't spend much on infrastructure, instead they spend on middle managers, traffic calming and computer systems that don't work.
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Soldato
Yes, it does
I never said money didn't get wasted. I also agree there is a LOT the government can do to trim fat, but still - the money goes back to the people
Yeah, fuel tax totally doesn't concern the government
Caporegime
I don't care what the price is; I'm not paying for it. 
Company car
Company fuel card
???
Profit
It's times like these that I really love my job.
Company car
Company fuel card
???
Profit
It's times like these that I really love my job.
Soldato
Indeed.
I'd be willing to bet my entire life savings and everything I own that this increase isn't going to spell the death of "many hauliers". We'll soon see.
Exactly, so they won't need to cut back on public services as much as they would otherwise have to. The gap needs to be plugged somehow.
Ah yes, I forgot that is all the government spend money on. Silly me not knowning when this is "well known"! I and everybody else should keep up to date with The Sun, The Mirror and the Daily Mail rather than experiencing Whitehall machinery first hand.
Yeah, fuel tax totally doesn't concern the government
Have some
back.I didn't say fuel duty wasn't there business. is aid the government sticks there nose into every aspect of our life. Which they shouldn't do and shouldn't be doing. if they butted out and concentrated on running the country and not peoples lifes we could easily cut tax.
Over £1million to put in a set of traffic lights which are then turned of at rush hour is money well spent? Even though the breifing said the traffic problem is at rush hour, but declared a succes by teh council, even though locals campaigned before, during and after they installed.. Unfortunately this isn't a one of. Things like this happen everywhere.
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Soldato
You're absolutely right. But even if Perfect-Government-1000(TM) took over tonight, it would be a long time before things change and an even longer time for money to free up. They need the money now, and it won't be too long before you can vote them out of office. Then, hopefully you'll see a leaner government in place.Have some
I didn't say fuel duty wasn't there business. is aid the government sticks there nose into every aspect of our life. Which they shouldn't do and shouldn't be doing. if they butted out and concentrated on running the country and not peoples lifes we could easily cut tax.
One thing I will agree on. It will make a difference however if they managed to survive when diesel was in the high £1.20's an extra 2p now shouldn't kill them off. I still cant see it having any real benefit though.
Caporegime
The government had to bail out the banks, therefore taxes need to be raised to pay for this. Console yourself with the thought all how much of Sir Fred Goodwin's £700k per year for life pension will be clawed back by an extra 2p per litre on petrol. Take that Goodwin (unless he moves abroad I suppose)!
Apart from it's not being payed by the government and it's not a pension it;s severance pay. Something he is entitled to and is in his contract.
Soldato
But there are other ways to get tax that could help the economy. Hitting fuel is not one of them and shouldn't of even been considered.
Caporegime
Except it is paid for by the government since RBS wouldn't have any cash if the government hadn't given it to them. We've been through this before so let's stick to the subject, why we're all going to have to pay more tax
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Soldato
Hitting fuel is one of them, because petrol prices have been and are on the decline.
Except it is paid for by the government since RBS wouldn't have any cash if the government hadn't given it to them. We've been through this before so let's stick to the subject, why we're all going to have to pay more tax
different pots of money.
Soldato
The government hasn't handed cash to RBS. They've purchased shares in RBS. The government will, eventually, make a substantial profit from RBS (and Lloyds, and Northern Rock, etc). Good for us.Except it is paid for by the government since RBS wouldn't have any cash if the government hadn't given it to them. We've been through this before so let's stick to the subject, why we're all going to have to pay more tax
Caporegime
And who gets the cash from the shares they've bought? The government didn't buy those shares as an investment you know, they did it because RBS would have gone bankrupt if they hadn't and that was a worse prospect than bailing them out and putting up taxes in future.