2p tax on petrol.....again

Hitting fuel is one of them, because petrol prices have been and are on the decline.

And? The price of a commodity has dropped so lets raise the tax on it again? As for prices being on the decline, total nonsense its actually been the otherway round recently. 82.9 to 87.9 is not a drop by any stretch of the imagination.
 
When we get petrol inflation, we'll get up near £1.20. The US usually pay nearer $3-4, it's quite a fair bit more is it not?
 
We can afford it. We afforded petrol when it was £1 per litre, we'll afford 91p per litre.

Hi there, judging by your post you seem to have very little knowledge of the areas that are suffering by fuel taxation. I asusme you don't work in the vehicle industry? If you do, have you had any sort of access to the accounts of any particular company to analyse the effects of rising fuel tax? I'm sure this wont be the last rise on fuel and every rise hurts all hauliers and peopel who depend on them.

I work in the vehicle recovery business/haulage and last year due to the high price of petrol / diesel it caused many job loses at our company. Not only were the fuel bills increased in a massive way(as fuel duty rises the companies can't claim it back), but vehicles on the road dropped a lot too and thus affecting our business.

Don't forget that the £1.20 + fuel price was only for a short period of a few months - if it was sustained then the consequences would be a disaster. Even for the short time it hurt the business that I work for.

Last year our company had very easy access to credit, but now the company doesn't - banks arn't interested. Even then, my hours were cut and we had many redundancies within the company. Any additional fuel costs fuel costs will be put on to the customers. Some of those customers are what we call 'trade work' - such as bodyshops and various garages, and they are struggling to survive. I fear for this summer.

The government have blown away the environment aspect of anything with their support of the airport expansion down south, and taxing our way out of trouble is not going to work.

Don't forget that the £1.20 fuel price was only for a short period of a few months - if it was sustained then the consequences would be a disaster.
 
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I think it's criminal how Diesel has been a steady 99p since the prices "came down" yet petrol dropped to almost 15p less.

I swear it's bordering price fixing...

No doubt they'll whack on 2p for Diesel, though :mad:
 
Most cant afford to fill their tanks when its gets to silly prices.

They couldn't take petrol at $3. Lucky its back down to around 1.50-2.00

Takes more to fill and their cars get less MPG.

Their own ************* fault for buying a ************* useless truck with a ************* useless V8 engine in it that only manages to do a ************* 5 MPG. Cry me a ************* river.

If they instead bought a normal sized car they'd have no issue. I doubt that even 5% of the trucks sold for private use in the USA are ever used in a situation where a car would not do.
 
Their own ************* fault for buying a ************* useless truck with a ************* useless V8 engine in it that only manages to do a ************* 5 MPG. Cry me a ************* river.

If they instead bought a normal sized car they'd have no issue. I doubt that even 5% of the trucks sold for private use in the USA are ever used in a situation where a car would not do.

Its all about big engined cars there, hardly their fault.

And now with the depression, no one has money to develop smaller engined cars in the states.
 
There was a factual BBC programme made where they drove a Lancia Beta Coupe across the spine of Africa, perhaps this is what you expect them to learn from.

(it was Top gear)
 
Its all about big engined cars there, hardly their fault.

And now with the depression, no one has money to develop smaller engined cars in the states.

I'll answer the 2nd point first:
I call BS on that. You do not require a 1L engine in order to have DECENT fuel economy. If the people had bought USDM Civics (much better car than the EUDM one), Corollas, USDM Focus, Saturn Astra and so on instead of their V8 2 tonne SUV/Pickup they'd have no problem affording $4 gas.

As for the first point, how is it not their fault? There are plenty of I4 cars offered in USA achieving good MPG figures (in fact same figures as most UK/EU 5 door medium size family cars - ie the ones listed above).
 
Just a further example of deception by this government. You have to love the economic policies of Brown. To help all the businesses in a recession he decides that increasing their outgoings will help them, also reducing demand by taking money out of the pockets of their customers hahahaha

No point in bailing out the car industry because when crude oil prices increase we will be looking at £1.30 a litre with all the additional tax.
 
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Takes more to fill and their cars get less MPG.

That's partly out of choice though (buying gas guzzlers). As for it taking more fuel to fill a tank, well, if the tank is bigger then they won't need to fill it so frequently for a fuel economy.

OK so if you bought a car with poor fuel economy when petrol was very cheap, and then the price shoots up, that's not really something you may have prepared for. But it's still a risk you take.

To be fair though, with a country the size of the US, it's relatively more likely that people will 'need' or at least want to make longer trips than in the UK. Supposedly driving 100 miles just to go to a restaurant isn't that unusual.
 
To be fair though, with a country the size of the US, it's relatively more likely that people will 'need' or at least want to make longer trips than in the UK. Supposedly driving 100 miles just to go to a restaurant isn't that unusual.

And do you need to drive a V8 Ford F150 to that restaurant - or can you make do with the Civic which has much better handling and comfort?
 
Yes but Americans are lazy, if they live 2 minutes away from a grocery store the chances are that they;ll use their cars. Lazy ****s.

So do people in UK, I can't remember the last time my parents willingly took the bus anywhere (other than London), they'd rather drive one of their cars and park (and walk if they have to from car park to destination)
 
Sigh.. How about trimming the sandle wearing, guardian reading, paper pushing, socialists on the public sector gravy train rather than raising fuel taxes. But oh noes we can't CUT PUBLIC EXPENDIDTURE LIKE THE NASTY TORIES WOULD!!!11

Small government is the way forward.
 
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