30/11 Strikes.
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I did not intend in anyway to imply anything so stupid as you think I did, I apologise if you got that impression.
I was hoping that he was going to reply, he didn't,but that was why I was intentionally vague as to where the money comes from.....
It was the impression that I thought was implied by your post.....I was a little surprised, but wasn't sure how invested in a particular point of view you were arguing tonight either......
Anyway, glad it's all cleared up.
Partly I'm annoyed that a group of people are getting horribly good pensions without being trained educators, which is a gross injustice.
Anyway it's significantly better for those with the pension deal they are fighting for than other public sector workers who don't get this one. It's not fair that they are fighting for a few people's right to sit on a massive state pension and not fight for everyone's right to a good state pension regardless of if your job was a public sector or private sector job.
Supporting greedy militant unionists is also not desirable... (for the record the gov's way of "negotiating" with the strike is pathetic too as they clearly stating that no one has the right to a state pension by trying to play hard ball)
Waste of a day tomorrow for me
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Really? Are you really saying your lecturer has no formal educational focused training?
Anyways - I'm on strike tomorrow. But don't worry, I'm off shopping to spend my massive civil service wage on consumables, safe in the knowledge that my gold plated pension will keep me in comfort for years to come (well, at least when I turn 67) - well it would if I wasn't being made redundant in a year or so!
Can you hear me as I buy my new 60" 3D TV?
MWAH HA HA HA HA!!!,
Oh wait - did I get the bins in?
Can you hear me as I buy my new 60" 3D TV?
MWAH HA HA HA HA!!!,
Oh wait - did I get the bins in?
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Dolph will argue for some reason not to. He has a right I guess to moan about what he does not like about the country, the NHS, the public sector etc but when actually questioned what he has done he disappears from threads or just ignores the posts. He conveniently ignores his right to spout vitriolic nonsense is protected by public servants and all up and down this country there are public sector workers genuinely working to better the lives of others sometimes with skill and finesse and sometimes with incompetence and borderline negligence. But in the main there are people in the middle trying to lead lives and do the best they can and they are doing some good. He has no problem in castigating their efforts at every opportunity whilst ignoring the simple fact - at least they tried which it appears is more than he has done. One would think that someone who has such an issue with all the deaths caused by the shockingly poor NHS whilst holding a degree in Chemistry would do something about it personally - but I guess not ... life is a game: some people get down there and play and win, some get down there and play and lose but at least they controlled their destiny, unfortunately most people just bitch about how they could do better from the stands.
Horribly good pensions are an inaccurate description, if they are not qualified perhaps that is something you should take up with your rector or equivilent.
Failing that, move to a better institution.
It isn't massive, and they are arguing and supporting everyone's right. That's the thing.
There is nothing greedy about a fair wage and a fair retirement for everyone, both sectors are already repressed in wage and living standards this extreme language and resentment between two groups of people largely in the same "boat" is perverse.
It is this attacking each other as greedy while we all get poorer that has signed this country to its death knell.
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And that would be my last comment for tonight.
Gnight all and have a good day tomorrow, whether you're on strike, at work, unemployed, looking after the kids or in ill health - best wishes to all my fellow humans - whatever political ideals you subscribe to.
Well thank you very much teachers classroom assistants and other associated striking school staff.
whilst i understand that your unhappy with the way your being treated even if i think you are all spoilt little children throwing toys out the pram. your strike action is not only depriving my children of a days education buy myself of a days wages. So thank you very much for your so called show of strength and solidarity.
i really dont understand why people in the public sector think they should be any different to their private sector equivilants.
If you feel your being unfairly treated then by all means protest but a strike like this turns public opinion against you in a hurry. schools closing and forcing parents into making alternative arrangements for their kids is never going to sway their opinions towards you, i'm sure theres plenty of other options you could have took rather than striking.
What i dont understand if your public sector job is THAT bad why not do what the rest of us do, find another job, if you cant find a better one improve yourself increase your skills and your value and get yourself what you desire be it more money, better working conditions etc etc. and yes i am aware that you have been promised this that and the next only to have it taken away BUT the country is on its knees the economy is in the toilet and cuts have to be made. granted you may not like them but sometimes life isnt always a fairytale. Sometimes life hands you lemons, so make lemonade and accept it or gtfo. Maybe i'm anti union but the leadership of the union hardly represents the workers. people on large salaries who dont work in the fields they represent are not the ones i would want representing me. if unions were lead by people with hands on experience and a real world understanding of who and whay they are representing i'd have more time for them but in my eyes the union leadership are nothing more than a bunch of rabble rousing power hungry wannabee fatcats
whilst i understand that your unhappy with the way your being treated even if i think you are all spoilt little children throwing toys out the pram. your strike action is not only depriving my children of a days education buy myself of a days wages. So thank you very much for your so called show of strength and solidarity.
i really dont understand why people in the public sector think they should be any different to their private sector equivilants.
If you feel your being unfairly treated then by all means protest but a strike like this turns public opinion against you in a hurry. schools closing and forcing parents into making alternative arrangements for their kids is never going to sway their opinions towards you, i'm sure theres plenty of other options you could have took rather than striking.
What i dont understand if your public sector job is THAT bad why not do what the rest of us do, find another job, if you cant find a better one improve yourself increase your skills and your value and get yourself what you desire be it more money, better working conditions etc etc. and yes i am aware that you have been promised this that and the next only to have it taken away BUT the country is on its knees the economy is in the toilet and cuts have to be made. granted you may not like them but sometimes life isnt always a fairytale. Sometimes life hands you lemons, so make lemonade and accept it or gtfo. Maybe i'm anti union but the leadership of the union hardly represents the workers. people on large salaries who dont work in the fields they represent are not the ones i would want representing me. if unions were lead by people with hands on experience and a real world understanding of who and whay they are representing i'd have more time for them but in my eyes the union leadership are nothing more than a bunch of rabble rousing power hungry wannabee fatcats
Think about it...
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A model parent obviously
the joys of having a wife funnily enough
so take your rolleys and shove them where the sun dont shine, obviously i'm a child beating brute whos about to send hits kids up a chimney because i've had a few beersDeleted member 66701
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the joys of having a wife funnily enough
In your sig, is that you in the Burberry cap?
funnily enough, no it isnt. any more personal digs you want to get in before i retire for the night? i've got a busy day of unfit parenting ahead of me tommorow
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Nope - can't think of any right now - check back tomorrow!
To be a uni lecturer you only need the degrees... You don't need the training of being a teacher like at school and it REALLY shows. My tutor who's off tomorrow is god awful at actually teaching... Not a bad Lecturer but not an actual teacher, which is true for most university members of teaching staff.
Just annoyed my uni is shut really (essays in on monday) so by striking I feel the uni is only really damaging my education (and all the kids in school too) instead of improving the conditions for those who teach.
There's nothing wrong with wanting a fair pension but they are not fighting for it for everyone, don't kid your self, if they were the action would actually matter and unions would be able to have clear unified and joint aims...
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