30/11 Strikes.

I'd agree with the weather/poor diet/lower income.

Lower work ethic is a load of bull though.

And notherners may be poorer, unhealthier and colder but they are also much nicer :)
Well yes I would agree with the weather and largely the lower income. Work ethic certainly I wouldn't agree with, and I'm not sure I'd agree with the diet thing anymore, although I'm sure there are statistics to prove me wrong.

Definitely nicer people, one reason we hope to move back home-ish.
 
Well yes I would agree with the weather and largely the lower income. Work ethic certainly I wouldn't agree with, and I'm not sure I'd agree with the diet thing anymore, although I'm sure there are statistics to prove me wrong.

Definitely nicer people, one reason we hope to move back home-ish.

Best thing I ever did moving from the SE to the NW.
 
profits

there is a difference profit generated money, and money extracted via taxation, a very very big difference.

I love the word "extracted" when used in the contect of tax collection - conjures up an image of lying back on a dentists chair with a tax collector leaning over you with his knee on your chest forcibly removing £5 notes from your wallet.

We'll have someone saying taxation is stealing next.
 
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Of course I am - cmon DD - use your brain.

Heard of S.A.D?

An if you think that cold, wet and darkness has no effect on sickness abscence, why does the ONS report state quite categically that sickness abscence is higher Oct through March?

Being cold, wet and dark doesn't mean you get sick either.
 
I love the word "extracted" when used in the contect of tax collections - conjures up an image of lying back on a dentists chair with a tax collector leaning over you with his knee on your chest forcibly removing £5 notes from your wallet.

We'll have someone saying taxation is stealing next.

Are you implying there is some aspect of choice to taxation?
 
Being cold, wet and dark doesn't mean you get sick either.

So why does the ONS report state quite categically that sickness abscence is higher Oct through March?

Did you look up S.A.D?
 
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Yes - everyone has a choice on whether to pay income tax and NI.

Go, tell me they don't so I can explain why they do.

Nobody can opt out of all taxation. And you do make yourself look silly by being pedantic to the nth degree. Yes not everyone works so won't pay income taxes, but most people do have to (at some point) and when they do, they will find themselves being taxed forcibly under threat of imprisonment, and with no say in what the money is spent on.
 
I love the word "extracted" when used in the contect of tax collection - conjures up an image of lying back on a dentists chair with a tax collector leaning over you with his knee on your chest forcibly removing £5 notes from your wallet.

We'll have someone saying taxation is stealing next.


Technically speaking taxation is forcibly removing money especially if you are PAYE as you have no choice, the money is taken at source. VAT is also forcible taking of money because it is already added to the price of goods where applicable.

We don't mutually agree to pay tax do we, we are forced to pay tax by the government, so i'd say extraction is a good word here, unless we become like greece and say taxation is optional :D

Betting and gaming duty
Petroleum revenue tax
Air passenger duty
Spirits duty
Insurance premium tax
Wine duty
Inheritance tax
Beer and cider duty
Capital gains tax
Vehicle excise duty
Tobacco duty
Stamp duty
Council tax
Fuel duties
Value added tax
National insurance
Income tax

Thats a list of tax we pay one way or another. The only way to avoid that lot is to be an unemployed, non smoking, non drinking, non car owning, non family having, non gambling, non driver who makes no purchases ever apart from food which is exempt but make sure you don't eat confectionery, crisps and savoury snacks, hot takeaways, ice cream, soft drinks or mineral water as they are all subject to VAT !
 
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