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[asim18]

But why wait on the R R R R R or B B B B B ? Why would that give an indication of what was coming next?

Have a read here.

I know what you're saying, but the human mind is extremely good at picking up patterns. The outcome is no doubt random you are right, but your mind notices patterns very easily and these thoughts end up influencing your bets at a roulette wheel.

I play roulette at a real casino regularly. I don't usually put money on red/black but the other day I was playing and my brain noticed a pattern. Two reds would never come up in a row. If a red ever came up it would always be followed by a black. (eg. BBBBRBBBRBBBBRBB). Fllowing this pattern I managed to quadruple my money. The first time the pattern was broken I stopped using that tactic.

 

[Marmot]

Doesn't matter if the wheel hits red 500 times in a row. The chances of it being a black the following spin are still the same.

 

[mehuk]

You'd be better using the blackjack games for this, using the strategy tables that show you when to hit/stand/double/etc.

They minimise your losses (and in some cases you will make some gains) while you play through the required amount, then you withdraw the balance.

It's still gambling - there's no guarantee you won't lose it all, so never play for money you can't afford to lose, but your method doesn't seem to have any logical system to it, previous rolls have no effect on subsequent ones.

Blackjack runs at 2% of the playthrough... 2% so thats what 50 times 960, trying to draw out 32 quid... you would be nuts. I did all the Blackjacks back in the day and they would have some tough playthroughs but nothing like 40000 odd that this would be

 

[Marmot]

I know what you're saying, but the human mind is extremely good at picking up patterns. The outcome is no doubt random you are right, but your mind notices patterns very easily and these thoughts end up influencing your bets at a roulette wheel.

I play roulette at a real casino regularly. I don't usually put money on red/black but the other day I was playing and my brain noticed a pattern. Two reds would never come up in a row. If a red ever came up it would always be followed by a black. (eg. BBBBRBBBRBBBBRBB). Fllowing this pattern I managed to quadruple my money. The first time the pattern was broken I stopped using that tactic.

Sorry but this is absolutely loltastic. If you believe there is any pattern to roulette then you are seriously misinformed.

 

[asim18]

Sorry but this is absolutely loltastic. If you believe there is any pattern to roulette then you are seriously misinformed.

Did you even read my post? I said the results are no doubt random. The human mind is just excellent at spotting patterns and these will influence your bets if you're paying any kind of attention.


Even in a completely random string, you CAN sometimes notice patterns. I never said there's a "pattern to roulette".

 

[Haggisman]

Blackjack runs at 2% of the playthrough... 2% so thats what 50 times 960, trying to draw out 32 quid... you would be nuts. I did all the Blackjacks back in the day and they would have some tough playthroughs but nothing like 40000 odd that this would be

Well, that's most likely because they've realised it's easy to beat the system with Blackjack

There is no system for roulette (unless there are some serious flaws with the RNG), and if you are "winning" it's purely because you happen to be getting lucky.

 

[The Halk]

The playthrough requirement of 30 times makes this offer, in my opinion, a scumbag offer. I'm not at my best so I can't work out what the

These online gambling sites need to get hit by some watchdog somewhere because they're conning people into depositing money and hiding in the terms and conditions rules about withdrawing it.

If I was a very rich man indeed then I'd do one of them, desposit the £20 or whatever and get it matched, bet it on something once and then take them to court when they refused to allow me to withdraw. A judge might very well rule their T&Cs are unenforceable.

 

[Marmot]

Did you even read my post? I said the results are no doubt random. The human mind is just excellent at spotting patterns and these will influence your bets if you're paying any kind of attention.

I read it, you clearly said:

I know what you're saying, but the human mind is extremely good at picking up patterns. The outcome is no doubt random you are right, but your mind notices patterns very easily and these thoughts end up influencing your bets at a roulette wheel.

That is just...

So your mind noticed a pattern out of something entirely random and you followed it? Why?

 

[Tefal]

Did you even read my post? I said the results are no doubt random. The human mind is just excellent at spotting patterns and these will influence your bets if you're paying any kind of attention.

except there is no patterns, the human mind is indeed excellent at spotting patterns, however it is even better at making up patterns.

hence superstitions, lucky objects and sacrifices/prayers to gods, each produce a pattern that "works" to the observer despite none existing.

 

[asim18]

So your mind noticed a pattern out of something entirely random and you followed it? Why?

Because that's roulette at the end of the day.

 

[mehuk]

The playthrough requirement of 30 times makes this offer, in my opinion, a scumbag offer. I'm not at my best so I can't work out what the

These online gambling sites need to get hit by some watchdog somewhere because they're conning people into depositing money and hiding in the terms and conditions rules about withdrawing it.

If I was a very rich man indeed then I'd do one of them, desposit the £20 or whatever and get it matched, bet it on something once and then take them to court when they refused to allow me to withdraw. A judge might very well rule their T&Cs are unenforceable.

Let me clarify because some people are debating the whys and where fors of Roulette, when all gambling is a mugs game...

1 - It is a free 32 quid, no deposit required.
2 - Yes there is a playthrough of 30 times the 32 quid ie 960 or more depending on the game used (Roulette on this example is 50% so 1920)
3 - Do not deposit
4 - The system im using is not mine at all, i dont even play roulette.
5 - The system may or may not be good, idk, but following it to the letter has seen me win some free cash
6 - Loads of people got in on the Skybet offer and won with free money, punting on horses is a mugs game, football accumalators etc Bingo is random etc but people won cash and I hope were not addicted to then gamble their own money.
7 - Ive not posted any referal links or anything and will gain nothing out of any of you winning or losing the free money or any money you have.

Either do it or dont is what I say - play what you want, use whatever system you want... but its free money and if you have some free time what harm does it do to burn a bit of it playing games with that little edge that you could win something back out of it?

 

[asim18]

except there is no patterns, the human mind is indeed excellent at spotting patterns, however it is even better at making up patterns.

hence superstitions, lucky objects and sacrifices/prayers to gods, each produce a pattern that "works" to the observer despite none existing.

Yes for the third time, I'm not saying roulette has a pattern to it. I'm saying is if you do notice a pattern in the last 20 spins your mind will pick it up and it may influence your bet for the next spin.

 

[Marmot]

Because that's roulette at the end of the day.

OK but you understand that if the board showed RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Then the following spin still has an equal chance of being Red of Black, right?

Sorry if I sounded rude, but so many individuals actually believe that the previous results displayed on the monitor are there for some other reason besides luring unintelligent individuals into parting with their money. The Casino is the only winner.

 

[asim18]

OK but you understand that if the board showed RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Then the following spin still has an equal chance of being Red of Black, right?

Sorry if I sounded rude, but so many individuals actually believe that the previous results displayed on the monitor are there for some other reason besides luring unintelligent individuals into parting with their money. The Casino is the only winner.

Of course I know that

Unless there is something physically wrong with the wheel!

 

[Psiko]

OK but you understand that if the board showed RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Then the following spin still has an equal chance of being Red of Black, right?

Sorry if I sounded rude, but so many individuals actually believe that the previous results displayed on the monitor are there for some other reason besides luring unintelligent individuals into parting with their money. The Casino is the only winner.

I'd have a word with Bayes and he would suggest I alter my posterior distribution. Or in other words the wheel must be bent!

 

[G-MAN2004]

I signed up but still have a balance of 0.

Edit: Ah, pop-up blocker.

 

[Reaper 392]

Anyone with a "system" for roulette will be welcomed into any casino in the land with open arms and a free drink.

that should tell you something

there are two systems for roulette that can make you money, both of which have got people barred from casinos. they only work on real roulette tables though

the first is a perfectly legal method. i'm pretty sure that it requires a roulette table with a 'drop zone,' but it might work without one
a drop zone is a roulette table which has a specific area where the roulette ball almost always falls towards the centre. this can be caused by the table being slightly off level, even by just a few degrees.

once you have found a table with a drop zone you will need to sit at the table for thousands of spins, recording the number that comes up each time. with a properly set up table you wouldnt find any number coming up significantly more than any other number, but if the table has a drop zone then a few numbers will come up more than others. obviously you spilt your bet between the numbers with higher probability and, over time, you will make money


the second method is only legal if you do it without any electronic equipment to help you, which is what derren brown tried to do and almost managed it, but its almost impossible. it also requires a table where you can place your bets after the ball has been released.

by recording the speed of the ball and the speed of the spinner, you can determine roughly where the ball will land. it wont give you a precise number, but it will give you an area where the ball will land, which is enough to put the odds in your favour

 

[dfarrall]

martingale system is terrible, your better off just betting £1 red every spin and hoping you come out with something.

But can we stop posting these sorts of offers, theres specific forums other places for it.

 

[Psiko]

there are two systems for roulette that can make you money, both of which have got people barred from casinos. they only work on real roulette tables though

the first is a perfectly legal method. i'm pretty sure that it requires a roulette table with a 'drop zone,' but it might work without one
a drop zone is a roulette table which has a specific area where the roulette ball almost always falls towards the centre. this can be caused by the table being slightly off level, even by just a few degrees.

once you have found a table with a drop zone you will need to sit at the table for thousands of spins, recording the number that comes up each time. with a properly set up table you wouldnt find any number coming up significantly more than any other number, but if the table has a drop zone then a few numbers will come up more than others. obviously you spilt your bet between the numbers with higher probability and, over time, you will make money


the second method is only legal if you do it without any electronic equipment to help you, which is what derren brown tried to do and almost managed it, but its almost impossible. it also requires a table where you can place your bets after the ball has been released.

by recording the speed of the ball and the speed of the spinner, you can determine roughly where the ball will land. it wont give you a precise number, but it will give you an area where the ball will land, which is enough to put the odds in your favour

Your second method happened in the Ritz in London (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4069629.stm) and is one of the reasons people can no longer use phones at the tables.

 

[Destination]

But why wait on the R R R R R or B B B B B ? Why would that give an indication of what was coming next?

Have a read here.

It isnt probability, it isnt truely random.