320.18 Nvidia Drivers - Report your issues here

[humbug]

You think that way because you fail to apply logic to anything remotely complicated. There is STILL no proof. Its like having a school child try and describe the different mechanisms of programmed cell death. They see the cell dying, yet don't have a damn clue why, instead just clutch at straws and coincidental factors.

Until its proved, which I highly doubt it will be, the only people trolling are people like you, who insist that theres some massive conspiracy at play.

I'll ask you again, do you know the RMA rates of all major manufacturers in the last 3-5 years? If not, how the hell can you prove that the failure rate on Nvidia GPU's has risen past a point that isn't in the mean scale? Until you get that sort of FACT, you are just talking rubbish.

I don't think you get what i'm saying.

I think Nvidia are ignoring it because they think that is the best strategy to make any blame laid at them go away.

Pretending nothing is wrong will have many believing its PEBKAC or liars while also providing a handle for those who wish to argue its PEBKAC and liars.

There is every reason to pull these darivers, look at the screen shots and those complaints about cooked GPU's, they are all liars, right? you say there is no proof, while also ignoring that proof.

 

[Gregster]

Don't help those who don't think to go there are read that ^^^^



Bloody hell...

All I asked was if you though Nvidia should accept the overwhelming evidence on the Internet and pull the offending drivers before more people are affected by them.

I have said nothing about any rivalries, I have no idea why you would expend in to all that crap.... I have nothing to say on the matter. off topic!

You obviously didn't bother reading what I typed. Where on earth did I say about rivalries? I was pointing out the errors I have had and feel this is rather relevant to these 320.18 drivers (which I am on).

Please stay out of this thread if you are only wanting people to start hating Nvidia and going by your reaction, that is clearly pointing at that. That will not help any user and like I said, users need to post in the relevant section of the Nvidia forum with their details and what is happening on their system. Don't try and be like Spoffle, as it will only lead to disappointment.

Edit:

As you have no issues to report, I kindly ask you leave this thread Everything you have been saying has been done in that other thread which got closed.

 

[MoRT489]

Exactly, it was nothing like that, which this could be just another example of. Get it now?

Maybe i misread your posts. This time it isn't brand specific and coincides with multiple user issues (reported in this thread and on other forums) a multitude of issues.

It will never be "proven" beyond doubt as Nvidia will not admit it, having left the driver out for this long, unless we get a scenario like when a car manufacturer has to recall a significant number of a certain model of car due to a hazardous problem/potential problem. In those cases it surely takes a large number of people reporting the problem before it becomes less profitable for the company to ignore it (and suffer bad publicity, loss of reputation, claims for damages, etc.) than to simply let a few car(d)s fail and fix them under warranty/RMA.

 

[andybird123]

I don't think you get what i'm saying.

I think Nvidia are ignoring it because they think that is the best strategy to make any blame laid at them go away.

Pretending nothing is wrong will have many believing its PEBKAC or liars while also providing a handle for those who wish to argue its PEBKAC and liars.

ignoring it by asking people to either post in their cards or even bring their whole PC in to their office?
yep, sounds like they have no intention of investigating it to me

as gregster says, you are really not contributing anything other than bile to this thread and are only interested in seeing it locked like the other one was

 

[Stanners]

You think that way because you fail to apply logic to anything remotely complicated. There is STILL no proof. Its like having a school child try and describe the different mechanisms of programmed cell death. They see the cell dying, yet don't have a damn clue why, instead just clutch at straws and coincidental factors.

Until its proved, which I highly doubt it will be, the only people trolling are people like you, who insist that theres some massive conspiracy at play.

I'll ask you again, do you know the RMA rates of all major manufacturers in the last 3-5 years? If not, how the hell can you prove that the failure rate on Nvidia GPU's has risen past a point that isn't in the mean scale? Until you get that sort of FACT, you are just talking rubbish.

You will get no facts as there is none, but the same old people post as fact.

 

[pgi947]

A shame they aren't acknowledging the issue

Maybe they're all at e3 with their phones switched off?

They should take a leaf out of msi's book imo. As soon as one of the many issues with 7950's surfaced, they held their hands up and got the wheels turning to get it sorted.

 

[James J]

Maybe i misread your posts. This time it isn't brand specific and coincides with multiple user issues (reported in this thread and on other forums) a multitude of issues.

It will never be "proven" beyond doubt as Nvidia will not admit it, having left the driver out for this long, unless we get a scenario like when a car manufacturer has to recall a significant number of a certain model of car due to a hazardous problem/potential problem. In those cases it surely takes a large number of people reporting the problem before it becomes less profitable for the company to ignore it (and suffer bad publicity, loss of reputation, claims for damages, etc.) than to simply let a few car(d)s fail and fix them under warranty/RMA.

Nvidia have pulled drivers before and said sorry to the community though. Look at the 590 setting on fire debacle a few years back. The drivers where pulled when they could replicate the issue. So far though, there is no proof that this driver is actually killing cards as it doesn't appear to be altering voltages, which was initially thought. Sure the driver is a bit buggy, but not to the point where its damaging hardware. Just coincidence.

 

[James J]

You will get no facts as there is none, but the same old people post as fact.

Sadly I already know that Its always the same people as well...

 

[Gregster]

Nvidia have pulled drivers before and said sorry to the community though. Look at the 590 setting on fire debacle a few years back. The drivers where pulled when they could replicate the issue. So far though, there is no proof that this driver is actually killing cards as it doesn't appear to be altering voltages, which was initially thought. Sure the driver is a bit buggy, but not to the point where its damaging hardware. Just coincidence.

I believe it isn't the GPU being damaged but the memory modules. Most issues being reported are showing corruption. If there is an issue, I would be looking at what is happening with the memory to be honest.

 

[James J]

I don't think you get what i'm saying.

I think Nvidia are ignoring it because they think that is the best strategy to make any blame laid at them go away.

Pretending nothing is wrong will have many believing its PEBKAC or liars while also providing a handle for those who wish to argue its PEBKAC and liars.

There is every reason to pull these darivers, look at the screen shots and those complaints about cooked GPU's, they are all liars, right? you say there is no proof, while also ignoring that proof.

Yes because every single Nvidia customer is not only an expert in GPU design and hardware limitations, but also driver level coding and hardware interaction.

I'm a scientist by profession and I look at sigma level deviations for proving things. This is whats commonly known as fact. You however just string together a list of events and proclaim grand design. Explain to me how my 8800 GT lasted less than a week when it was brand new from OcUK a few years ago, yet the replacement is still going strong today? The drivers didn't kill that card as I used the same ones on the replacement lol.

This is why without RMA figures, you have no claim to proving anything. You just have a list of events and think you know the final answer, when so far, you don't.

 

[andybird123]

A shame they aren't acknowledging the issue

Maybe they're all at e3 with their phones switched off?

They should take a leaf out of msi's book imo. As soon as one of the many issues with 7950's surfaced, they held their hands up and got the wheels turning to get it sorted.

it is difficult to acknowledge a problem you've not seen replicated

MSI had their own stock of their own defective cards so it would have been pretty easy for them to torture test their own cards to replicate that issue - iirc, they didn't do this within a few days, which is all that this one has been, it took a series of RMA's over weeks if not months before they actually issued a recall?

the problem here seems to be with 3rd party cards which Nvidia don't have a stock of, they have asked for people with problem cards to contact them and have some on their way in to them now

once they've replicated the issue they'll take a view on what to do about it

 

[James J]

I believe it isn't the GPU being damaged but the memory modules. Most issues being reported are showing corruption. If there is an issue, I would be looking at what is happening with the memory to be honest.

From what I've seen, its not all memory issues. Numerous people are getting issues associated with core death as well, which also confounds my assumption that this is still coincidental.

 

[straxusii]

ROFL, I don't think so!

 

[Gregster]

From what I've seen, its not all memory issues. Numerous people are getting issues associated with core death as well, which also confounds my assumption that this is still coincidental.

Could be. I have a good understanding of how a GPU works but have no idea on the intricacies of one. I was just going on the basis of the amount who report texture corruption and this normally points to memory being clocked too high. Of course I could be a mile off and it is something completely different.

 

[Kaapstad]

Yes because every single Nvidia customer is not only an expert in GPU design and hardware limitations, but also driver level coding and hardware interaction.

I'm a scientist by profession and I look at sigma level deviations for proving things. This is whats commonly known as fact. You however just string together a list of events and proclaim grand design. Explain to me how my 8800 GT lasted less than a week when it was brand new from OcUK a few years ago, yet the replacement is still going strong today? The drivers didn't kill that card as I used the same ones on the replacement lol.

This is why without RMA figures, you have no claim to proving anything. You just have a list of events and think you know the final answer, when so far, you don't.

+1

If we did have the RMA figures, I would not be surprised if there were more AMD cards returned than NVidia ones in the past month. But this is only speculation.....

 

[DASH]

Have to say my XFX 8800 GTX has also just bit the bullet with these drivers.. Bloody gutted..

Just went out and bought a EVGA 640 to tide me over..

Whats the best Nvidia card out at the moment if i was to spend about £350 ish ..???

Thanks..

 

[ubersonic]

A shame they aren't acknowledging the issue

Don't worry they have/are, I copied their statement on it from 6/6/13 in post #111.

I think the problem is that ATM Nvidia, just like us, don't know whats going on or what could be causing it and until they figure out where the problem lies it would be silly to pull the drivers are that would just feed the fire of the rumor mill.

 

[James J]

Could be. I have a good understanding of how a GPU works but have no idea on the intricacies of one. I was just going on the basis of the amount who report texture corruption and this normally points to memory being clocked too high. Of course I could be a mile off and it is something completely different.

Problem with looking at this sort of stuff is you can't 100% confirm it anyway. Unless people monitor GPU temps constantly, how would you know if your 70C temp in winter was now melting your card in summer? Seasonal gpu death is also a coincidence, but also a potential factor in this also.

 

[ImMrChris]

i noticed no graphic corruption until iRacing locked up then the screen just looked a mess like full corruption over the entire screen i could still hear the game though so i knew it was video related (i updated the driver just before the race so i only got free practice for 5 mins out of that driver) upon restart i was getting blue screen after blue screen until windows decided the card was munched and turned it off

 

[Kaapstad]

Have to say my XFX 8800 GTX has also just bit the bullet with these drivers.. Bloody gutted..

Just went out and bought a EVGA 640 to tide me over..

Whats the best Nvidia card out at the moment if i was to spend about £350 ish ..???

Thanks..

Sorry about your card.

In answer to your question it would probably be the new GTX 770.