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pepsilol said:
The phrase relates to money.

You live once, you have the money and can afford the purchase right now. Down the line this may not be the case and all he may be able to afford is a bus pass.
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One could argue that if down the line all he can afford is a bus pass, all the more reason to be cautious with money now to delay that situation. Maybe some of those people getting the bus are doing so because they were frivolous with money in their earlier years :)
 
DoubleCheese said:
A colleague at work bought an 06 Saab 93 1.9TiD and has spent thousands on it over the past 2 years. Easily over 5k on repairs.
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I bought a Saab 9-3 in July and it's the best car I have ever owned.

2 colleagues bought 9-3's (one a 06 1.9disease and one a 1.8 petrol auto on an 07). Best cars they have ever bought/owned.

Another 2 local people we know, one with a very old 9-5, all he has owned is Saab's, loves it. Another with a newer 9-5 had for many years and been faultless.

Saab's are fantastic.
 
The 9-3 is an ancient design, you'd have to really really want one to spend more than a few grand on one. They are nice to drive on motorway and have a good ( if slightly cheap feeling) quirky interior....but have comedy handling
 
Saab 9-3's are great £2-3k cars. Once they hit this amount of money the fact it's heavily GM bsaed becomes a benefit rather than a disadvantage and you end up with a much newer car for your money.

At proper money they make no sense as everything else in the class Saab were daft enough to pitch at is massively better, which is a big contributary factor in the reason why Saab is no longer with us.

At £7k a Saab 9-3 is a poor car.
 
rodenal said:
have a good ( if slightly cheap feeling) quirky interior
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Only slightly cheap? I like the layout of everything and love the nightpanel (only speedo is illuminated) but the rest is a dreadfully cheap plastic that should never have been in a car that was aiming for such high class.
 
Me too, sure If you go around prodding everything in front of you then its lots of hard plastic where others have some sort of soft touch....but it doesn't look cheap and tbh I don't really care what material is used if it looks right.

Its quite a nice place to be...for a couple of grand
 
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[TW]Fox;25368378 said:
Disagree.
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I found that Saab like to use swathes of that spray-on rubber coating which lasts about 5 minutes. Whilst neither of them are anywhere near what I'd call "decent build quality" inside, the Vectra's just felt a little bit more tactile and longer-lasting to me.

The Saab is a lot more comfortable to sit in for any length of time though, so I guess that's what matters!
 
[TW]Fox;25368271 said:
They'd have sold loads of 9-3's if it was aimed and priced at the Mondeo and Vectra.
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Well for me this was the point really. I got an absolutely top of the line spec wise Saab 9-3 for the same money the top end Vectra and Mondeo's were. Saying that, the Mondeo estate Tit-X with the 2.5 ST engine was very nice, but very hard to come by and for me not as nice as the 9-3 to be in, or performance wise either so I did choose 9-3 over the top Mondeo.

I do see you guys points, but I would not limit Saab to 2-3k, that's silly. 5-6k will nail you an absolutely cracking Saab, compare a 7-8k near similar engine/spec BMW, VW or Audi and it'll certainly be nowhere near cracking at that money. Older, less spec etc etc. I honestly think bang for buck, the Saab is hard to beat. It's not until you can afford a nice spec, condition 330 that you would forget about the Saab, but up to only an 8k budget, silly car to ignore in my opinion :cool:
 
But the Saab isn't in the same class as any Audi or BMW etc so its not apples for apples.

Turning down a mk4 Mondeo for a 9-3 I find honestly quite hard to comprehend as they are poles apart ( btw I am not even a Mondeo fan), the Mondeo is a significantly better car as is the insignia, as is the exeo, as is the accord - but if you like the car that's what matters really!
 
rodenal said:
But the Saab isn't in the same class as any Audi or BMW etc so its not apples for apples.

Turning down a mk4 Mondeo for a 9-3 I find honestly quite hard to comprehend as they are poles apart ( btw I am not even a Mondeo fan), the Mondeo is a significantly better car as is the insignia, as is the exeo, as is the accord - but if you like the car that's what matters really!
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:confused:I know it's not in the same class car versus car. But when you talk 2nd hand, under 60k miles, higher spec etc etc, it's £5k versus £9k+ purely as an example, Saab versus BMW. In that market, that jump is not justified. These German cars are a joke in the second hand market.

The Accord is nice, I am a Honda man (JDM EP3 is my play toy) but we were moving from a 1.8civic FN and wanted something with effortless power (turbo). So we wanted away from the Honda which was hard for me.

I have no idea how you can claim the Mondeo and the Insignia are better cars, the Mondeo was on a par with the 9-3 I bought but I couldn't find any for sale, there was 2 in the entire UK with high miles versus a few mint Saab's. The Insignia is a horrible car, I absolutely hated it. End of the day it is personal preference overall for certain things, it would suck if we all agree'd :cool:

Oh I was also looking at V50 T5 R-Design's but they were hard to come by and the interior on those is oddly quite bad. Felt pretty cheapy for a Volvo I thought. Test drove the D5 also, it was nice enough, but again the Saab just grabbed me bang for buck and was a ncie car to sit in on a journey, although Volvo seats are as comfy as they come out fo the box.
 
I recently purchased a BMW 320d 05 Plate, very happy with the car and no real issues with it.

However one thing I discovered (by accident when trying to fit a 6ft 10" bed frame in the car) which has annoyed me slightly, is the fact that the rear seats don't fold down, this was apparently an optional extra (when buying new).

I know its only something small but i thought it was worth pointing out.
 
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