34.7gb raptor Raid 0 vs 74gb raptor vs spinpoint 40gb raid 0

i have a 36 gig raptor and yes its pretty noisey. wouldnt like to have 2 running put it like that.

the 76gig is supposed to be a lot quicker and queiter then the 36gig so i would take that over 2 x 36gigs in raid any day.
 
do you think i should get a raptor as they are quite expensive. I would install windows and games on the raptor, and keep data and things on a 160gb spinpoint. or should i just use the spinpoint and partition it?
 
If you can afford the raptor go for it.

They are good.

It's like anything...if you want the best you have to pay extra.

Whether the extra cost is justifiable only you can judge.

I've had 36Gb, 74Gb and 150Gb Raptors. I think they are great for speeding up boot-ups and loading lots of data (i.e. FS 2004).

However for the same money I could have had a lot more (slower) HDDs.

Why not get a 36Gb on and see if you like it?
 
salami1212 said:
would 2 samsungs 80 gb each in raid 0 be better than a 75 gb raptor?

I'm sure SMIDS will comment on this soon enough but, the best bet atm is the Hitachi Deskstars.

2 x 80gb in raid0 or 4 x 80gb (2 in raid0 and 2 in raid0+1)

The 2 in raid0 are quicker than a raptor!

You could go with samsung, which are quieter but not as fast, but should still be quicker than a raptor with 2 drives in raid0
 
It depends really on what you are willing to spend. A 40GB RAID0 will be no better than a Raptor 74GB because the smaller drives are no as fast as larger ones (platter density) and 40GB's aren't great in this respect + you have the higher data loss chance due to the RAID0.

36GB Raptor RAID0 is good but a little expensive, no? Unless you pick up some cheap ones in the MM or elsewhere. Good reliability in that they are raptors which reduce the chance of failure even if in RAID0.

74GB raptor - expensive but a good option. Good reliability, decent space, good speed but pricey.

RAID0 80GB drives - reliability questionable without a backup solution but certainly fast - easily faster than a 74GB raptor or even a 150GB raptor.

RAID0+1 - this is what I'm running. RAID0 read coupled with RAID1 reliability. Writes are not that much better than a single drive (RAID1 kills writes) but RAID0 doubles them - so net gain is a little over 1 single HDU however the read is great - I get about 100MB/s as opposed to a single 80GB drive which would get about 50MB/s. My setup cost me about £150 for which I get, faster than 150GB raptor speed, more reliability than 150GB raptor, 160GB space.

The choice is yours but it all depends on your budget.
 
smids said:
74GB raptor - expensive but a good option. Good reliability, decent space, good speed but pricey.

RAID0 80GB drives - reliability questionable without a backup solution but certainly fast - easily faster than a 74GB raptor or even a 150GB raptor.

how is it easily faster?
 
salami1212 said:
how is it easily faster?
Raptor 74GB hits about 65-70Mb/s average read. 7.8ms access time.
RAID0 80GB drives are about 95-100Mb/s read 12.8ms access.
That's about 50% read and write performance increase.

OK, the access is slower, but the read is much greater as are the writes.

This is all from personal experience too ;) - my different setups over time -

Seagate 7200rpm
Raptor 36GB
Raptor 74GB
80GB RAID0
74GB Raptor RAID0
150GB raptor
4x80GB RAID0+1 - current and probably final.
 
yea, but whats the difference between access time and read and write time.. what does each thing do?
Also if i had 2 160gb sata 2 spinpoint hds in raid 0, would that be better than the raptor 74gb
 
Read - exactly that, how much data can be read from the HDU per second. The most common thing an HDU does. Loading a game map, opening a program, they all read from the HDU and load into the RAM.

Writes - saving data, installing programs (less common) and usually only split second usage (how long does it take to save a word file?).

Access time - how long, in ms, the average searching time is of the heads, when looking for the data. The lower, the faster it will find the data and be able to begin the read process.

2x160GB in RAID0 will easily hit about 105MB/s configured correctly I'd say but then again, you would have 320GB of quite unreliable data. Much faster than a raptor but also much less reliable.
 
I hardly go on MSN these days + a bit busy with uni finals. Deskstars are great, so great I have 4 (in the RAID0+1), and 1 seagate storage drive. They can be turned down using a feature tool noise wise and are excellent performers.
 
so if i got 2x 80gb hitachi deskstars in raid array 0 would it be faster than a 74gb raptor. would it be reliable and quiet.

Another thing. whats more important the read and write time or the access time. and would windows boot faster and things if i got the deskstars. cheers

PS: i will be getting another 160gb drive for backup, what drive should i get?
 
salami1212 said:
so if i got 2x 80gb hitachi deskstars in raid array 0 would it be faster than a 74gb raptor. would it be reliable and quiet.

Another thing. whats more important the read and write time or the access time. and would windows boot faster and things if i got the deskstars. cheers

PS: i will be getting another 160gb drive for backup, what drive should i get?
Yes it would be faster and I have had both. Reliable? Hmm, I wouldn't store key data on there, just games/windows/programs.

Read and access time is most important - bootup etc as I said above. I think read is just ahead of access.

Backup drive - always Seagate :).
 
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