3570k to 3770k query

OpenToSuggestions · 11 Apr 2019 at 17:23

Hey all.
I have a 3570k at 4.4ghz, mid range MSI motherboard. 4 x 4gb ram and a 290x (awaiting delivery of a 980ti).

My pro Googling suggest that an upgrade to a 3770k wouldn't do anything for me. As far as I can tell I'd gain hyperthreading. I'd only be gamimg with it.

My rig is a bit old (2014) and has served me well.

I'm fairly knowledgable on PC hardware.
Any opinions on the cpu would be appreciated

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tamzzy · 11 Apr 2019 at 17:33

what games?
how long do you intend to keep your current computer?
any more budget to spend? or is a 3770k upgrade at the top of your budget?
ryzen 3000 coming soon in the summer so 3770k could lose relevance in the next 12-18 months for the latest AAA titles

OpenToSuggestions · 11 Apr 2019 at 18:11

The 3770k is the best my motherboard can take.
I would like a new Ryzen rig if gen 3 lives up to the hype

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I play new and old. I am only querying the cpu as my 980ti is in the post

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tamzzy · 11 Apr 2019 at 18:35

just wait imo. no point upgrading to the 3770k.
oc ryzen 2nd gen has same single core performance as a 3770k.
and 3570k isn't really going to bottleneck a 980ti unless you're playing a highly multithreaded game (like bfv/ac

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(i'm playing on a 3770k @4.5 with a 1080ti fwiw)

OpenToSuggestions · 11 Apr 2019 at 19:23

Thanks for posting back.
I think the 980ti will be a good upgrade for now. I game at 3440x1440 but just can't justify the newer GPU costs.

tamzzy · 11 Apr 2019 at 19:24

980ti will be fine for ultra wide 1440p so long as you're not looking for >100fps gaming on ultra settings.
60fps should be ok

Minstadave · 11 Apr 2019 at 20:15

Agreed with the not bothering option. Won't be worth the hassle in anything but Battlefield really. I'd but the pennies towards a new build.

~>Dg<~ · 12 Apr 2019 at 08:26

i would just save money towards new amd cpus. you wont gain much.

NinjaCool · 12 Apr 2019 at 13:01

Rather than getting a now 7 years old 3770K CPU, I would go for a new system with at least 6 cores or wait for Zen 2.

AiiR · 12 Apr 2019 at 13:21

tamzzy said:
oc ryzen 2nd gen has same single core performance as a 3770k.

Minstadave · 12 Apr 2019 at 13:25

AiiR said:

Probably not far from the truth. Single threaded performance when you compare Ryzen at 4 or 4.1Ghz to Ivy bridge at 4.6-4.8Ghz isn't going to much different.

tamzzy · 12 Apr 2019 at 13:30

AiiR said:

Minstadave said:
Probably not far from the truth. Single threaded performance when you compare Ryzen at 4 or 4.1Ghz to Ivy bridge at 4.6-4.8Ghz isn't going to much different.

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AiiR · 12 Apr 2019 at 13:54

Minstadave said:
Probably not far from the truth. Single threaded performance when you compare Ryzen at 4 or 4.1Ghz to Ivy bridge at 4.6-4.8Ghz isn't going to much different.

It's not the same single core performance then if you have to clock the Intel chip higher? Surely?

tamzzy · 12 Apr 2019 at 14:02

AiiR said:
It's not the same single core performance then if you have to clock the Intel chip higher? Surely?

performance = clock * ipc

i never said ipc. i said performance. don't be a pedant

AiiR · 12 Apr 2019 at 14:16

tamzzy said:
performance = clock * ipc

i never said ipc. i said performance. don't be a pedant

It was a genuine query, I've never seen anybody compare 2nd gen Ryzen to a 3rd gen i5 before. The added sarcasm was a bit unnecessary.

tamzzy · 12 Apr 2019 at 14:18

AiiR said:
It was a genuine query, I've never seen anybody compare 2nd gen Ryzen to a 3rd gen i5 before. The added sarcasm was a bit unnecessary.

Ah my apologies then

But yes, in terms of ipc, ryzen+ is approx between broadwell + kaby lake (more kaby lake than broadwell)
Ryzen 1st gen is approx between Haswell + broadwell.
Unfortunately both ryzen and ryzen+ don't have the clock speed to take advantage of. Hopefully ryzen2 coming soon can rectify that

MartinPrince · 12 Apr 2019 at 20:20

There are a few games that will take advantage of HT but for the cumulative outlay I just wouldn't bother and would sit tight as others have said.

Andygully · 13 Apr 2019 at 10:14

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/5428205/spy/5458638

Thats the time spy results from when i changed from a 3770k to a 2600

Troezar · 14 Apr 2019 at 08:52

Andygully said:
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/5428205/spy/5458638

Thats the time spy results from when i changed from a 3770k to a 2600

Interesting. The overall score looks underwhelming until you look at the CPU score. Does it feel much different moving to the new CPU?

Hybridtheory · 14 Apr 2019 at 09:31

I am in a very similar position to the op, seems we may have bought similar bundles around the same time 2012ish maybe. (3570k, Z77-D3H @4.4)

I feel the need to upgrade now but I am going to hold out and see what the 3rd gen Ryzen brings