3rd time unlucky?

willhub · 15 Dec 2007 at 21:45

tweakinfreak said:
Oh I don't, believe me this RAM has caused me more issues than anything on my system, only thing is as RAM is so cheap now if I sold all 4 sticks i'd struggle to get anything that performed as well

Yea same, I tried selling my ram on the bay at slightly lower than stores as it was 100% brand new but no one wanted to know so only one option, to re use it, so if I cant get a refund from the shop then I will have to keep with it, I dont know why it dies so much though the GeIL is fine.

netby · 15 Dec 2007 at 21:52

eheheh

use it at defaults- 333mhz( DDR 667) at 1.85/1.9Vdimm and it won´t die, I promise you

8 months past running fine and counting

willhub · 15 Dec 2007 at 21:53

netby said:
eheheh

use it at defaults- 333mhz( DDR 667) at 1.85/1.9Vdimm and it won´t die, I promise you

8 months past running fine and counting

667Mhz is slow

, dont want to downclock my GeIL too

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Troop · 15 Dec 2007 at 23:26

1.8-1.9v is fine for 400+ speeds with the balistix 5300's, willhub,....... take out the other mem and try the ballistix at 1.9v 4-4-4 12 with your present settings. just give it a try.

willhub · 16 Dec 2007 at 00:54

Troop said:
1.8-1.9v is fine for 400+ speeds with the balistix 5300's, willhub,....... take out the other mem and try the ballistix at 1.9v 4-4-4 12 with your present settings. just give it a try.

Hmm might do, I might try lowr the voltage to 2.0 my GeIL might be able to take it.

coneypark · 16 Dec 2007 at 02:06

Crucial ahve said before that 2.2 is not the default voltage for this memory. It will run fine at 1.8v and should be. If you have it running at 2.2v then it will more than likely die at some point.

Keep the voltage below 2.0 if you can and you will still get a great overclock on it as you can see from my sig and I ahve had mine running for about 11 months with no problem with it.

willhub · 16 Dec 2007 at 02:13

coneypark said:
Crucial ahve said before that 2.2 is not the default voltage for this memory. It will run fine at 1.8v and should be. If you have it running at 2.2v then it will more than likely die at some point.

Keep the voltage below 2.0 if you can and you will still get a great overclock on it as you can see from my sig and I ahve had mine running for about 11 months with no problem with it.

Hmmm but my GeIL is rated at 2.1 it says on the sticker.

megatron · 16 Dec 2007 at 09:11

That's the "red line".

iMacMart · 16 Dec 2007 at 09:51

I may put my volts down to 1.9mhz?

Not sure if the 5300 Ballistix will do 890mzh @ 4-4-4-12 at those volts though?

Only one way to find out mind

willhub · 16 Dec 2007 at 13:42

megatron said:
That's the "red line".

Sorry, what is?

tweakinfreak said:
I may put my volts down to 1.9mhz?

Not sure if the 5300 Ballistix will do 890mzh @ 4-4-4-12 at those volts though?

Only one way to find out mind

I'm going to try 850Mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.0 later, it cant damage the ram having it at high speeds and lower volts right?

iMacMart · 16 Dec 2007 at 14:12

I doubt it tbh?

Someone may correct me though?

Like I said I have been running 4-4-4-12 890mhz for a month with my 4gb (2 sticks just got back from RMA) but as the P35C DS3R over volts by 0.1 I have read I may actually drop my volts from 2.0 (BIOS reading) to 1.8/1.9 and see how it goes?

willhub · 16 Dec 2007 at 14:29

tweakinfreak said:
I doubt it tbh?

Someone may correct me though?

Like I said I have been running 4-4-4-12 890mhz for a month with my 4gb (2 sticks just got back from RMA) but as the P35C DS3R over volts by 0.1 I have read I may actually drop my volts from 2.0 (BIOS reading) to 1.8/1.9 and see how it goes?

So at 0.4V I may have been running at 2.3V? Even so that should be fine for this ram.

I'm suspecting my graphics card is going abit mental now aswell, I let it load up windows, went down to see whats cooking, got back up 5 mins later and there was the desktop frozen with loads of white blocky crap all over it, I'm hoping that was gigabytes EXTERTool though.

These are the last problems I want happening at crimbo

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iMacMart · 16 Dec 2007 at 14:37

I haven't got anything like that installed on my PC?

Just the latest GTX drivers and rivatuner and that's it..!

Yes I would think those volts would be right, but I think its a combo of heat and high volts that kills these bad boys

coneypark · 16 Dec 2007 at 16:06

Hi,

I can only go on my own experience and I haven't had any trouble with mine and it's been running at speeds in sig for 11 months fine at 1.9.

netby · 16 Dec 2007 at 16:29

coneypark said:
Hi,

I can only go on my own experience and I haven't had any trouble with mine and it's been running at speeds in sig for 11 months fine at 1.9.

I mate

I have been running it at 667mhz at 12-3-3-3 with 1.9vdimm for the last 7/8 months, without any problem

after your post I decided to risk a little more, and I changed it for 400 mhz and 12-4-4-4 with same 1.9Vdimm( of course the cpu went from 333x8 to 400 x8 so i give a little more 0.2Vcore now the cpu is at 1.38V anyway it´s a 50% overclock from cpu default)

everithing seems ok,the sistem boot ok and it´s stable

iMacMart · 16 Dec 2007 at 17:15

coneypark said:
Hi,

I can only go on my own experience and I haven't had any trouble with mine and it's been running at speeds in sig for 11 months fine at 1.9.

Is that 1.9 in the BIOS?

Or 1.8 with the over volt on the board in windows?

megatron · 16 Dec 2007 at 20:45

willhub said:
Sorry, what is?

I'm going to try 850Mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.0 later, it cant damage the ram having it at high speeds and lower volts right?

I was comparing the RAM to a car, u don't need to red line it just to pull away from the traffic lights. The manufacturers give a voltage that they will still warranty it, but if u don't need to use those volts to get a mediocre overclock, don't or expect to be inconvenienced with an RMA some months later.

megatron · 16 Dec 2007 at 20:55

willhub said:
So at 0.4V I may have been running at 2.3V? Even so that should be fine for this ram.

Looking at the thread title, I'd say its not unlucky at all; u just don't have any concept that running on exceptionally high volts will shorten component life considerably. I would expect 2.3v to be used as a suicide screenshot. If the ram is guarenteed to 2.2v as you say then 2.3v is not "fine".

Ive got a dead stick of ram, my pc was crashing rarely in BF2, I upped the volts to 2.1vdimm and sometime later I come back to a blue screen unable to boot with that stick in.

U have RMA'ed twice, when are u going to wise up to the fact that u are the reason that ** ram is dying, u are taking the "red line" as the base line. The JEDEC specification for Vdimm for DDR2 is 1.8v any more and its overvolting.

willhub · 16 Dec 2007 at 21:04

megatron said:
Looking at the thread title, I'd say its not unlucky at all; u just don't have any concept that running on exceptionally high volts will shorten component life considerably. I would expect 2.3v to be used as a suicide screenshot. If the ram is guarenteed to 2.2v as you say then 2.3v is not "fine".

Ive got a dead stick of ram, my pc was crashing rarely in BF2, I upped the volts to 2.1vdimm and sometime later I come back to a blue screen unable to boot with that stick in.

U have RMA'ed twice, when are u going to wise up to the fact that u are the reason that ** ram is dying, u are taking the "red line" as the base line. The JEDEC specification for Vdimm for DDR2 is 1.8v any more and its overvolting.

Thats odd because I've seen people on other forums running this PC5300 stuff at 2.3V, I was under the impression that 2.2V was its ratedt voltage so I put it at that, its not me not understanding ant sort of concept.....

megatron · 16 Dec 2007 at 21:31

willhub said:
Thats odd because I've seen people on other forums running this PC5300 stuff at 2.3V, I was under the impression that 2.2V was its ratedt voltage so I put it at that, its not me not understanding ant sort of concept.....

Yes but from your own experience, u have been running it at high volts 24/7 and its broken twice. So thats why I don't think you understand the concept. People in this thread have said they have had no problem at 1.9v for 11months and I believe them. I just broke a stick and I don't think its "unlucky", I just won't run it as high on volts as before. It makes zero difference to me if its running at 1125Mhz or 800Mhz. It will show up in benchmarks, but I don't notice it playing a game.