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4870 1gb or GTX 260 (216)?

Rroff said:
You can't compare percentages - his fan at 33% is running over 500rpm faster than mine is at 40% which is going to be a big difference in noise level... at 1900+ RPM mine is around 36C idle.
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well i like to run my pc quit so all fans are running on lowest speed as posible in case. its 32% i dont know why gpu-z picked it up 33% after 35% i start noticing the some more noise.

and if u would put my fans to medium in a case i bet it would run few degrees cooler
 
Tute said:
Why does temperature matter when choosing a card anyway?
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It doesn't, people are way too anal about temps. It's all relative. The Voodoo3 ran a good 80c at least, that was 'OK'. Then cards came out with active coolers, dropping temps to 30-40c. Now we're back up to higher temps and all of sudden 'it can't handle it'.

Only issue is a hotter card may increase internal case temps. Only time that should matter though, is if there's poor airflow. But if you're anal about temps, I'm sure the caseflow would be fine.

Noise, ease of use, performance, cost - these all matter. Temperature is an arbitary measurement to say the least.
 
Boogle said:
It doesn't, people are way too anal about temps. It's all relative. The Voodoo3 ran a good 80c at least, that was 'OK'. Then cards came out with active coolers, dropping temps to 30-40c. Now we're back up to higher temps and all of sudden 'it can't handle it'.

Only issue is a hotter card may increase internal case temps. Only time that should matter though, is if there's poor airflow. But if you're anal about temps, I'm sure the caseflow would be fine.

Noise, ease of use, performance, cost - these all matter. Temperature is an arbitary measurement to say the least.
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Exactly - it just confuses me when people cite temperature as a reason one card is better than another. Surely if the card is stable, that's all that matters?
 
Its not temperatures as such... but a cooler card tends to run quieter and has less effect on the temps of other case components.
 
Tute said:
Not necessarily. It all depends on the efficiency of the cooler.
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Agreed. My case has excellent airflow, and my 'old' 512Mb 4870 idled at 77 degrees - and was effectively silent (to me) at idle and under load. If I didn't have GPU-Z I'd be blissfully unaware how 'poor' that card was :D
 
hence why I said "tends".

As a generalisation the warmer a card runs the more noise the cooling makes.

I love how so many people can only see things in black and white.
 
w3bbo said:
I just reviewed a GTX260 216 (black edition) To say I was blown away is an understatement. Hopefully we will get a 4870 1GB soon to throw into the mix.

Review Here
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I would have PM'd you about this, but apparently I can't...

The benchmarks on page 4 of that review show the 260 beating the 280...Is that right? Surely the 280 is more powerful?

Also, are the current range of 260-216's on the OC the equivalent of the Black Edition? They appear so.
 
Tough call right now. Can you wait till december 10th to see if ATi pull a rabbit out the hat twith their new drivers?

The updated 260 is looking like a lovely card nowadays from all I've seen (and that's not that much as I'm not looking right now lol). I'm a little unsure how the 4870 can go from being within 25% of the 280, to now being soundly between (according to some review websites) by the 260 though. Really needs some careful looking at :)
 
Tute said:
Why does temperature matter when choosing a card anyway?
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It's a concern if, like me, you have all the case fans at ultra low RPM for the silence. Having a graphics card hotter than Satan's codpiece next to your CPU and and toasting your case when the airflow isn't particularly high can be an issue.

I'm starting to lean towards the 260 myself, not simply because of temps but it is a factor. The better minimum fps at 1920x1200 is also a factor.
 
rafster said:
The ATI myths sadly never cease. 4870X2, rock solid, does not get hot and the drivers are perfect.
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You are having a laugh right? never gets hot and works perfectly?

Mine gets so hot on that it will literally burn your fingers if you touch the card, not the HSF but the PCB, and there are still some games where the drivers don't have a profile so you don't get any benefit from the 2 cores.
 
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