4K 144Hz?

Quartz said:
That depends upon the game you're playing. Older games will happily run at well over 144 fps.
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Yeah some people dont get this. On another thread I seen people speccing out systems that play games like fortnite when in reality a 6600xt would run that game above 144fps. Also some cards were targeted for 4k whereas most mid range would be for 1440p.
 
The 38 inch ultrawides run 3840x1600, with the horizontal Res being exactly the same as 4k. So it could actually display most movies at 1:1 in 4k.

Few of them about with 144hz too...
 
Quartz said:
That depends upon the game you're playing. Older games will happily run at well over 144 fps.
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Even stuff like The Division will happily run well over 100 FPS at 4K on the upper half of 3000 series GPUs.

As is always the case though the more graphically heavy of the latest generation of games, on contemporary series of GPUs, don't tend to punch above 60 FPS at top resolutions.
 
rG-tom said:
The 38 inch ultrawides run 3840x1600, with the horizontal Res being exactly the same as 4k. So it could actually display most movies at 1:1 in 4k.

Few of them about with 144hz too...
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The OP does mention about 4k/144hz being "very expensive compared to non-4K or non-144Hz versions." - a 38" ultrawide is even more so! :p

Also if he's doing video editing in 4k then he's going to need 4k, so probably not suitable :s
 
I am surprised there are no budget alternative TV's to the LG 48".

I think the happy size tradeoff would be something near to 32" with as many of the features as the LG panels as long as the price was around what a small TV should cost. From what I have seen there doesnt seem to be any explored choices in this band, so I am hoping these TV manufacturers release some in 2022 that could fill the void.

As @TNA posted the smaller LG would be ideal but I am not holding my breath on the price of it nor when its gonna be available.
 
gpuerrilla said:
I am surprised there are no budget alternative TV's to the LG 48".

I think the happy size tradeoff would be something near to 32" with as many of the features as the LG panels as long as the price was around what a small TV should cost. From what I have seen there doesnt seem to be any explored choices in this band, so I am hoping these TV manufacturers release some in 2022 that could fill the void.

As @TNA posted the smaller LG would be ideal but I am not holding my breath on the price of it nor when its gonna be available.
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Yep. The 42" may well release very expensive and as usual get cheaper around Black Friday. I may have gone 48" but the price was not as good as I wanted to make the compromise. Costco had some 48" C1's for around £650 but that was store specific and I only have their online membership. Would have got it at that price.
 
TNA said:
Yep. The 42" may well release very expensive and as usual get cheaper around Black Friday. I may have gone 48" but the price was not as good as I wanted to make the compromise. Costco had some 48" C1's for around £650 but that was store specific and I only have their online membership. Would have got it at that price.
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Shocked that no small units exist even without all the features we want, I think HDR is high on the list but something between the £4/500 mark would be an easy gap in the market for one of these TV makers to produce which can satisfy the 4k gaming and content watching as well as a useable desktop monitor for work/productivity.
 
Captain said:
Gigabyte 32” 4K 144Hz monitor is excellent, best monitor I’ve ever used.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...-hdr400-widescreen-gaming-moni-mo-00q-gi.html
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That is highly rated on Hub I think. But nothing really matches OLED and the HDR it provides.

gpuerrilla said:
Shocked that no small units exist even without all the features we want, I think HDR is high on the list but something between the £4/500 mark would be an easy gap in the market for one of these TV makers to produce which can satisfy the 4k gaming and content watching as well as a useable desktop monitor for work/productivity.
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LG make these panels so unless they are cutting them to that size for others to buy it from them, then no one can make it at that size.

LG did make a monitor for professionals, but that costs silly moneys and is 60hz etc.
 
TNA said:
That is highly rated on Hub I think. But nothing really matches OLED and the HDR it provides.
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I'm pretty impressed with the Philips Momentum 436M6 and its "quantum dot" tech, it handles HDR about as well as anything I've seen but really shines with SDR content which convincingly looks HDR on it - which I've not seen any other display manage to this degree.

Despite some negatives it does surprisingly well for a 60Hz monitor thanks to its pixel response and input latency being fairly tightly clustered around the average rather than as in many monitors where you get a range from shockingly bad to very good which the average number doesn't represent well. Along with VRR even if only 48-60Hz it produces results you'd need to be running other panels at around 80-90Hz to manage. And the only VA panel I've used so far where I don't notice motion/smearing issues.
 
Rroff said:
I'm pretty impressed with the Philips Momentum 436M6 and its "quantum dot" tech, it handles HDR about as well as anything I've seen but really shines with SDR content which convincingly looks HDR on it - which I've not seen any other display manage to this degree.

Despite some negatives it does surprisingly well for a 60Hz monitor thanks to its pixel response and input latency being fairly tightly clustered around the average rather than as in many monitors where you get a range from shockingly bad to very good which the average number doesn't represent well. Along with VRR even if only 48-60Hz it produces results you'd need to be running other panels at around 80-90Hz to manage. And the only VA panel I've used so far where I don't notice motion/smearing issues.
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Looks decent, but at that price might as well pay a few hundred quid more for an OLED which has 120hz also.
 
I bit the bullet on a Viewsonic 4K 32" XG320U for just under £1K. It fits most of my needs and get good reviews for the areas that are important to me.

Happy with HDR600 spec
150Hz
4K
Freesync Premium Pro
Good colours for content creation.
OKish for ganes and HDR

I don't need high response times as I don't competitive game but wanted a monitor that works on my PS5 and PC.
 
TNA said:
Looks decent, but at that price might as well pay a few hundred quid more for an OLED which has 120hz also.
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Paid £390 for mine new - seen it as high as £900 though currently £500-600 but often come up around £400.

At the time 120Hz OLED was way more expensive and testing a bunch of displays in that category found it hard to find something as well suited to my needs as an overall package. Even most OLEDs I notice the limitations of HDR more.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Shocked that no small units exist even without all the features we want, I think HDR is high on the list but something between the £4/500 mark would be an easy gap in the market for one of these TV makers to produce which can satisfy the 4k gaming and content watching as well as a useable desktop monitor for work/productivity.
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If China can build an OLED @£650.00 with all the goodies HDR, Dolby vision HDMI 2.1 @120Hz G-sync VRR, Smart TV, LG can do the same at that price for UK!
 
ICDP said:
I bit the bullet on a Viewsonic 4K 32" XG320U for just under £1K. It fits most of my needs and get good reviews for the areas that are important to me.

Happy with HDR600 spec
150Hz
4K
Freesync Premium Pro
Good colours for content creation.
OKish for ganes and HDR

I don't need high response times as I don't competitive game but wanted a monitor that works on my PS5 and PC.
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Just giving an update on my initial reactions to this monitor.

My main use will be for productivity with some gaming.

Refresh rate and SDR gaming.
I find it has decent response times for casual gaming and saw no obvious ghosting. Though I did come from a 60Hz 4K IPS Samsung U32E850R. So for casual gaming it seems perfectly fine and the 144Hz refresh is excellent.

SDR
I did have to adjust the RGB manually as the out of box sRGB setting looks too green and reds look pink. I ended up on Red 90, Green 80 and Blue 100 and saturation 50. For a monitor that is touted as perfect out of the box for sRGB etc, I just don't see it and it looked very wrong. I will get it calibrated but it looks fine with these manual settings.

HDR
This is only rated for HDR 600 and has no dimming zones and you can tell when using HDR content it is not great. It is good and certainly shows an improvement in colours and contrast, so HDR does make a difference. In night scenes the lack of dimming zones is major negative, because HDR in night scenes it gives more colour range but suffers from lack of contrast. Still better than SDR but not massively so. HDR in windows is just about accepatble and definately an improvement over the HDR400 monitor I tried a while back.

I tried HDR in Watch Dogs Legion, Far Cry 6 and Horizon Zero Dawn and there is a definite improvement in color range and contrasts. Just don't expec miracles as this is not proper HDR with no dimming zones. So day scenes are good and night scenes are only so so but still better than SDR mode.

HDR in Windows 10 is a pain, some games need HDR enabled in Windows 10 and to be honest Windows 10 looks poor in HDR mode. It is either too bright or the contrast/colours look wrong. So PC game developers really need to be able to toggle HDR on/off without the need for Windows 10 being set to HDR mode.

Conclusion
I saw no excessive IPS glow and have detected no dead pixels. Blacks are about expected for IPS and I have no real complaints here. I have tried VA and while blacks were improved I find IPS much better for general use. Overall it is a good 144Hz 4K general use monitor with good size for 4K content and it does an OK job for HDR.

So if you are looking for a general purpose 4K IPS with some HDR capability it will be a decent purchase. If your main reason is HDR then avoid. It is better overall than the monitor it will replace, so I will be keeping it.

If all you need is 144Hz 4K then get a cheaper HDR 400 model and ignore the HDR content. If you want better HDR content then you need to spend £3K here in the UK and that's a lot for what is essentially a niche feature.
 
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