5080 & 5090 Coil Whine Thread

[Nitefly]

In my experience the card profile can change in the first week, but very rarely after that.

There’s also sub-concious recognition bias - your mind ends up tuning out sounds that are irrelevant, like fridges and boilers.

People can also spoil things for themselves. I recently bought a little vase thing which I noticed had a very, very minor defect. My OCD tendencies meant I couldn’t put that out of my mind until I had ‘dealt’ with the defect, one way of another. I realised I was being ridiculous and brute forced myself to just deal with it - uncomfortable for me - and, as soon as the ‘exchange / return period’ ended… I haven’t thought about it since

 

[Hostile_18]

There’s also sub-concious recognition bias - your mind ends up tuning out sounds that are irrelevant, like fridges and boilers.

People can also spoil things for themselves. I recently bought a little vase thing which I noticed had a very, very minor defect. My OCD tendencies meant I couldn’t put down that out of my mind until I had ‘dealt’ with the defect, one way of another. I realised I was being ridiculous and brute forced myself to just deal with it - uncomfortable for me - and, as soon as the ‘exchange / return period’ ended… I haven’t thought about it since

I have the same thing with OCD and item condition actually. But what you did is the right way to deal with it, replacing things sets a precedent to have to do that next time so it makes it worse in the long run. I have a quite involved media setup now, huge speakers, lots of parts etc and everything has small blemishes if you go into the detail I do, but I've got miles better at tolerating it all because I'm no longer trying to keep everything perfect! .. and lets face it to everyone else its pristine lol.

But I would argue coil whine is something different, that actually takes away enjoyment. I have over two grand of speakers and I play cinematic games. If there is a quiet scene in game or I go to a menu without music to hear that constant whine is annoying as anything to me. I genuinely get more pleasure been allowed to enjoy quiet moments as much as loud ones etc. Getting the experience the director intented is very important to me.

 

[Nitefly]

I have the same thing with OCD and item condition actually. But what you did is the right way to deal with it, replacing things sets a precedent to have to do that next time so it makes it worse in the long run.

I hope you don’t suffer with it too much - how you’ve described it there is exactly how things get carried away and snowball into OCD… and you only really become self-aware after you notice it’s become a problem. I try and limit this behaviour to ‘things that matter’ - it can be hard to manage though.

I’m 100% with you that heavy coil whine is not acceptable and I can’t tune it out, but some coil whine is OK and I’m willing to be tolerant. My current card has it a little bit in some games but it’s quite hard to hear over fans - when playing a game, my mind will eventually focus on the game and tune out the fans and coil whine entirely. Everyone’s ability to do this will vary, but you’ve got to allow it a bit with a high power card.

 

[Hostile_18]

I hope you don’t suffer with it too much - how you’ve described it there is exactly how things get carried away and snowball into OCD… and you only really become self-aware after you notice it’s become a problem. I try and limit this behaviour to ‘things that matter’ - it can be hard to manage though.

I’m 100% with you that heavy coil whine is not acceptable and I can’t tune it out, but some coil whine is OK and I’m willing to be tolerant. My current card has it a little bit in some games but it’s quite hard to hear over fans - when playing a game, my mind will eventually focus on the game and tune out the fans and coil whine entirely. Everyone’s ability to do this will vary, but you’ve got to allow it a bit with a high power card.

Yeah it can manifest in a few different ways in life, but knowing the right way to deal with things (and practice) is the best way to get better.

Oh yeah I absolutely agree with you about accepting some. You know if its bad because the noise is sharper and more prevalent than just mild coil whine noise. Most of the 40 series launch cards were pretty bad, but most of the manufacturers made changes and reduced it significantly. The differences between launch Strix and Suprims and their later editions are wild. It's unfair when you think about it really because everyone pays the same, yet one group gets a much better experience.

What I really want to know is how the fe coil whine will be because its significantly cheaper. The 40db fans don't sound to appealing either. 35db on the fe were fine, I'm not sure if it got any where near max speed though in my case though. Like I have three 140mm fans below the gpu 5 inchs away from the graphics card.

 

[Sc00p007]

I use an open water cooled test bench. My 2080ti fe was a high pitch screamer, could hear it in the room next door. I'm convinced it was being amplified by the water block but reassembly made no difference. Changed psu, no difference. I felt uncomfortable selling publicly as people may under estimate how loud it was. Mate said he'd buy it if he could test it. He tried, and was pleased to say he had no loud coil wine. He knew how loud it was on my system.
3090 fe was a low bass hummer at higher fps but acceptable and would probably be masked by case fans. 4090 fe is silent.
It's been a lottery for me and I'm still mentally scared from the 2080ti

 

[ombadboy]

Seems like the consensus is MSI is a 'safer' choice when it comes down to coil whine.. But their warranty puts me off (pinned post).. Have we had any indication whether the Astral/TUF will be using the 'revised' capacitors (used in later 4090 Strix's?).. Decisions, decisions..

 

[Hostile_18]

Seems like the consensus is MSI is a 'safer' choice when it comes down to coil whine.. But their warranty puts me off (pinned post).. Have we had any indication whether the Astral/TUF will be using the 'revised' capacitors (used in later 4090 Strix's?).. Decisions, decisions..

Still very early days. For all we know the Astral is using some kind of revised/different capacitors, as the videos I've seen while not inaudible are certainly significantly better than launch Asus cards (see post 50 for the difference).

 

[ombadboy]

Still very early days. For all we know the Astral is using some kind of revised/different capacitors, as the videos I've seen while not inaudible are certainly significantly better than launch Asus cards (see post 50 for the difference).

Fair - Not many reviews out for the AIBs. Expected a few more. According to guru3d, they gave FE 8/10 (higher is worse) coil whine rating, the Astral 5/10, and the Palit 6/10. Begs the question if the TUF will have the same PCB as the Astral as I've not seen any reviews and that's really want I am aiming for..

 

[Hostile_18]

Sure we will get more reviews in the coming days. Doesn't bode well for availability if even review samples are landing hot lol. I've seen practically nothing review wise for the Vanguard, Gaming Trio, Zotac's, Gigabytes, Inno3Ds etc.

 

[555BUK]

I have owned bith a 4090 FE and 4080 Super FE. Both had zero noticeable whine. If whine becomes common on the 5000-series it'll be because NVidia standards have dropped. Think I'll skip 5000.

 

[ombadboy]

I have owned bith a 4090 FE and 4080 Super FE. Both had zero noticeable whine. If whine becomes common on the 5000-series it'll be because NVidia standards have dropped. Think I'll skip 5000.

Proper kick in the teeth isn't it? Paying 2 grand for a GPU and getting coil whine for free with it..

 

[kindai]

Gigabyte cards using the cheap R10 chokes. That card will be a screamer.

 

[kreas]

Hey all, was hoping to get some input with regards to which manufacturer would be safest for a 5080. I'm building in sff with a gpu length clearance of 325 mm, which effectively limits me to the budget models. I'm especially prone to this **** so I want to maximize my chance of avoiding it.

Looking at past launches and the current 5090 reviews, Asus / FE seem to be a no-go. Gigabyte had the least whine in 4000 series iirc, but @kindai last comment doesn't inspire much hope. My options are essentially msi / inno3d / zotac. I'd appreciate if anyone with more experience was able to provide any additional information between the remaining brands.

I know the best option would be to wait for reviews, but I'll be buying on launch and I doubt we'll have meaningful information on embargo day.