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5600x vs 5800x

opethdisciple

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OK, so I bought a 5600x on Wed after doing a little bit of research.

Received the 5600x on Fri. On the same day I receive the CPU, Far Cry 6 specs are revealed and CPU requirements are quite high.


Now I am at 1440p and the recommended CPU is indeed a 5600x but I am 75% tempted to send the CPU back and get a 5800x just for peace of mind that it will have a bit more longevity.

However the reason I even went with the 5600x over the 5800x is because generally there is about 5% between the CPUs.

However the Far Cry 6 specs worry me that maybe future titles will indeed need more powerful CPUs moving forward.

I guess I have no option here because I will always have that nagging feeling that I should have got the 5800x if I keep the 5600x.

(Pure gaming pc)
 
Hmm not sure about those specs, they're a bit contradictory in the least.. i.e it's saying that you need a lower GPU and faster CPU at 4K than 1440p. Maybe because the frame targets are different (60 and 30) but still doesn't make sense..
 
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If you upgrade your CPU each gen then keep the 5600x because there's only 6% difference.

However, if you plan to keep it for around 5 years then it's blindingly obvious that future games will use more cores. Reviewers only talk about current games when reviewing. Its not their job to speculate about future games.

There's a potential for up to 33% more performance considering 33% more cores.
 
There is no doubt that the 5600X is a great gaming CPU but there is also no doubt that 6 cores with 12 threads is the mainstream choice today for gamers.
The Steam Hardware Survey in August 2021 shows that 34.09% now owns a 6 core CPU and that's rising rapidly while 8 core users stands at 14.04% with a slow but continuous growth.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=pc

Farcry 6 supports FSR and these recommendations are without it, so people with lower end PC's at 1440p for example should see a nice performance gain with FSR while maintaining quality visuals.
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Still calling b$£%££$t on those specs. No way it requires 8 cores. The most demanding title CP2077 recommends Core i7-4790 or Ryzen 3 3200G for 4k Ultra RT.. I suppose it could be a really really bad game engine... perhaps it calculates the grains of sand on your local beaches using a mixture of calculus and matrix mechanics, and then adds the flow and saturation rate of the incoming tide in real time.
 
It probably depends greatly on the graphics manufacturer. A 5600X might be fine with an AMD RDNA solution but not with Nvidia RTX.

From what I’ve seen, a lot the issues attributed to the CPU are actually an Nvidia issue.
 
TBH it didn't make sense to me that increasing the resolution would increase load on the CPU to the point where it works need an additional 2 cores especially at 60 FPS?
 
jigger said:
It probably depends greatly on the graphics manufacturer. A 5600X might be fine with an AMD RDNA solution but not with Nvidia RTX.

From what I’ve seen, a lot the issues attributed to the CPU are actually an Nvidia issue.
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Please stop regurgitating this tripe.
 
opethdisciple said:
Isn't he talking about the fact the Nvidia driver adds CPU over head? I thought that was a fact?
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It’s a sore topic that seems to invoke much butt emotion.

The 7700 non K and 3600X are a poignant comparison IMO. That is a rather large gap in performance between the two.
 
I wouldnt bother unless i could find a used 5800x for about 280, you will never see that difference with your eyes on the screen
 
jigger said:
Sorry if facts upset you again.
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Look how bad the 2700x performs vs the 8700k (released 6 months earlier so we could easily swap in the 9700k as the competing architecture and give Intel the leg up instead of AMD - not HUBs style though). This is with 6900xt.


Very strange that there no uplift at 1080p vs 1440p in most games, this is because AMD process driver elements on chip on the GPU which bottlenecks the CPU due to it not being able to retrieve and process information fast enough, so there's basically no point buying an AMD card if you're gaming at 1080p.
** Yes, this is a B£$%^$t spin on it.

The gaming performance of 2700k is on par with the 6700K.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare-ga...el-core-i7-6700k-4-00ghz-vs-amd-ryzen-7-2700x
 
Alan McFall said:
Look how bad the 2700x performs vs the 8700k (released 6 months earlier so we could easily swap in the 9700k as the competing architecture and give Intel the leg up instead of AMD - not HUBs style though). This is with 6900xt.


Very strange that there no uplift at 1080p vs 1440p in most games, this is because AMD process driver elements on chip on the GPU which bottlenecks the CPU due to it not being able to retrieve and process information fast enough, so there's basically no point buying an AMD card if you're gaming at 1080p.
** Yes, this is a B£$%^$t spin on it.

The gaming performance of 2700k is on par with the 6700K.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare-ga...el-core-i7-6700k-4-00ghz-vs-amd-ryzen-7-2700x
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Is that an apology?
 
NinjaCool said:
There is no doubt that the 5600X is a great gaming CPU but there is also no doubt that 6 cores with 12 threads is the mainstream choice today for gamers.
The Steam Hardware Survey in August 2021 shows that 34.09% now owns a 6 core CPU and that's rising rapidly while 8 core users stands at 14.04% with a slow but continuous growth.
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Don't forget consoles.

PS5 sales reached 10 million in June and Microsoft estimated XSX+XSS having sold 6½ million to same date.
Combined total could be reaching over 25 million by the end of the year assuming also Microsoft has secured enough component deliveries.
As most games are multiplatters that's strong incentive to find ways to use/new uses for more cores in future games.



Alan McFall said:
Shame, you missed an opportunity to grow.
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You better wipe your behind the ears dry, if you're bringing complete off topic post with old Zen+ CPU into this thread.
 
jigger said:
I did watch. Did you?

RDNA2 (the RX6900XT FYI) scales with CPU performance…
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No, Zen and Zen+ are ***** gaming architectures. You are trying to blame Nvidia for this by creating a driver overhead 'issue'. Guess what, driver and scheduling overheads are nothing new and also change between API's, at some point CPU architecture won't be able to keep up with the GPU this is not an 'issue' with driver overhead, it's the natural progression of technology. You're using this HUB story to plug AMD, one that shows just how poor Zen and Zen+ are to anyone but a layman.

Anyway, I believe you are fully aware of these facts and I am done debating this topic with you good sir (still going to pull you every time I see you misleading people with this nonsense).
 
EsaT said:
You better wipe your behind the ears dry, if you're bringing complete off topic post with old Zen+ CPU into this thread.
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It's not off topic when it comes to evidence of performance hits from Nvidia 3000 series driver scheduling, it's the prime example that jigger has based his opinions on and you are fully aware of this my friend :cry:
 
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