5700x v 5800x Same price which do you buy?

[Haz123]

They are the same silicon so will perform almost identical with the same mobo settings. With it being a newer stepping I would predict you could get slightly better performance out of a 5700x than a 5800x but they are identical in every meaningful way other than the number they print on top.

Having said all that the 5800x is probably always going to have £10 better resale value solely due to 5800x being higher number than 5700x and not everyone realised they are the same chip.

 

[Darujhistan]

They are the same silicon so will perform almost identical with the same mobo settings. With it being a newer stepping I would predict you could get slightly better performance out of a 5700x than a 5800x but they are identical in every meaningful way other than the number they print on top.

Having said all that the 5800x is probably always going to have £10 better resale value solely due to 5800x being higher number than 5700x and not everyone realised they are the same chip.

Yeah, I think i've decided on 5700X out of the two.

 

[Tee Hee Johnson]

They are the same silicon so will perform almost identical with the same mobo settings. With it being a newer stepping I would predict you could get slightly better performance out of a 5700x than a 5800x but they are identical in every meaningful way other than the number they print on top.

Having said all that the 5800x is probably always going to have £10 better resale value solely due to 5800x being higher number than 5700x and not everyone realised they are the same chip.

The B2 stepping of the 5800X will likely be the current stepping of the 5700x.

 

[JollyJamma]

5800X faster, hotter, higher power consumption, but is the same price...

5700x 95% of the performance, cooler, only 65 TDP.

Gaming usage only.

5800X and undervolt it. I went for the 5700X because it was significantly cheaper at the time.

The 5700X is probably a better option for my ITX rig since it runs at a lower wattage anyway.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Get 5800x and in bios run it in eco mode 65w and it will be same as 5700x in temps and multicore performance but 5800x will have higher boost in single thread.

 

[heatonpkmassive]

Get 5800x and in bios run it in eco mode 65w and it will be same as 5700x in temps and multicore performance but 5800x will have higher boost in single thread.

This 100%. I don't know why this is even a debate given the above.

 

[2013]

I'm having the same issue choosing between the 5800x and the 5700x, has anyone treied out the above options to see the results ?

 

[Cyber-Mav]

i dont have a 5700x but have the 5800x and even set to 65w ppt i get boosting to 4.85ghz on low threads but at 65w ppt all core speed is low think it was 3.4ghz in prime95. just up ppt to what your cooler can handle i run at 135w but noticed that in all core load temps are 85c in prime but running 6 core load in prime i hit 90c throttling since those 6 core will boost higher. its all about the turbo boost these days, gone are the days of naturally aspirated cpus.

 

[jigger]

depends on what graphics card you have. For anything RDNA based either chip, if anything Nvidia then the faster chip will help out with work that Nvidia needs to offload.

 

[Darujhistan]

Went with the 5700x in the end, some faffage ensued with the new BIOS required on an old B450, and then the boot drive needing to be reconfigured to UEFI to boot the new chip, it was set to legacy and would boot the 2600, but not this one.

Initial impressions, everything seems a little snappier, there's some increased FPS, at the top end at 1440p, and the lows have certainly improved, runs cool and quiet, I could see the sense in buying the the 5800x it is slightly faster but really they're the same chip just configured differently, but I feel happy looking at the lower wattage being used.

In the end I think passing on AM5 and getting 32GB of 3200MHZ and the 5700x for about £350 and also not having to buy a new MOBO was the right choice, I can't see me being CPU bound for years.

Also, itch scrarched and I can look solely at GPU upgrades for the next few years.

 

[2013]

depends on what graphics card you have. For anything RDNA based either chip, if anything Nvidia then the faster chip will help out with work that Nvidia needs to offload.

I have a AMD Rx 580 at the moment but Ill upgrade in the future.

Went with the 5700x in the end, some faffage ensued with the new BIOS required on an old B450, and then the boot drive needing to be reconfigured to UEFI to boot the new chip, it was set to legacy and would boot the 2600, but not this one.

Initial impressions, everything seems a little snappier, there's some increased FPS, at the top end at 1440p, and the lows have certainly improved, runs cool and quiet, I could see the sense in buying the the 5800x it is slightly faster but really they're the same chip just configured differently, but I feel happy looking at the lower wattage being used.

In the end I think passing on AM5 and getting 32GB of 3200MHZ and the 5700x for about £350 and also not having to buy a new MOBO was the right choice, I can't see me being CPU bound for years.

Also, itch scrarched and I can look solely at GPU upgrades for the next few years.

Thanks.

I have the same issue I dont really need to upgrade I just want to (like you said itch) and this small change will keep me upto date for some time like the 1700x has, I can then upgrade the other bits in time when some deals come along.

Im not a major gamer anymore, I just pick something up every now and then.

 

[Darujhistan]

I have a AMD Rx 580 at the moment but Ill upgrade in the future.


Thanks.

Im have the same issue I dont really need to upgrade I just want to (like you said itch) and this small change will keep me upto date for some time like the 1700x has, I can then upgrade the other bits in time when some deals come along.

Im not a major gamer anymore, I just pick something up every now and then.

It just makes sense, I had a whole AM5 upgrade in the cart ready to go, the money on hand, and I just looked at the £850 and thought, what are you doing?

Current CPU's are just too good now.

Also I now have plenty left over for an Nvme drive when the fancy takes me.

 

[2013]

It just makes sense, I had a whole AM5 upgrade in the cart ready to go, the money on hand, and I just looked at the £850 and thought, what are you doing?

Current CPU's are just too good now.

Also I now have plenty left over for an Nvme drive when the fancy takes me.

if your not going to be making the most out of it, what's the point in spending so much (time are hard already).

 

[Darujhistan]

if your not going to be making the most out of it, what's the point in spending so much (time are hard already).

Yep.

 

[voidshatter]

Went with the 5700x in the end

The 5700X is so far my favourite CPU as the B2 stepping guarantees low temperature and quietness. I returned the 5800X3D for refund just because the high temperature makes the fan so noisy.

I had a whole AM5 upgrade in the cart ready to go, the money on hand, and I just looked at the £850 and thought, what are you doing?

Same here. I ordered B650E ITX + Trident 2x32GB 5600C30 from the US at £725. Together with the 7950X at £599 it would have been £1325, which is hard to justify. I ended up cancelling that.

 

[GuruJockStrap]

The 5700X is so far my favourite CPU as the B2 stepping guarantees low temperature and quietness. I returned the 5800X3D for refund just because the high temperature makes the fan so noisy.

Did you not try PBO2 Tuner? Knocks a good 10c of load temps.

 

[dante6491]

I grabbed a 5800x in the "sales" - little step up from the 3700x and should tide me over till Zen 6 or equivalent.

Gone PBO2 and per core optimsier.

-24,-23,-25,-30,-30,-30,-30,-23. Seems plenty stable and is idling about 10'C cooler than I ever got the 3700x, although that may have been a lack of thermal paste.

 

[Trick]

If you haven’t already it would be worth running CoreCycler on those timings for a few hours to check it’s stable.

 

[saddler]

Im considering one of these as an upgrade from a 2700x.

I still use the raith prism that came with the 2700x. Will it be possible to re-use this on the 5700x or 5800x to keep costs down?

The 2700x has a tdp of 105W so theoritically fine for the 5700x but 5800x might throttle unless run in eco mode.

 

[Tetras]

The 2700x has a tdp of 105W so theoretically fine for the 5700x but 5800x might throttle unless run in eco mode.

Yeah, for games I think either CPU would be fine with the Prism, but the 5800X in moderate-high multi-core load might get rather toasty.