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5950X VS 5800X3D for long term

It’s never happened. What you are talking about is API limitations. Unless the 12100 can beat the 13900?

You were replying to Cyber-Mav saying that in 5 years time quad cores will beat a 5950X and that's what I was referring to. The 12100 is not 5 years newer than the 13900, but it is versus the 1700X, which it easily beats in games and many productivity apps. For why it is possible, I don't know.
 
You were replying to Cyber-Mav saying that in 5 years time quad cores will beat a 5950X and that's what I was referring to. The 12100 is not 5 years newer than the 13900, but it is versus the 1700X, which it easily beats in games and many productivity apps. For why it is possible, I don't know.

It’s extremely rare where a 4 core chip offers more performance than an 8,12,16,20,24

Anyone expecting a return to parallelism is going to be disappointed.

From my experience gaming with 4 cores is a choppy endeavour and I wouldn’t recommend it. I definitely wouldn’t be championing the idea of parallel processing or making arguments for it on behalf of the like of CyberMav. But hey ho, enjoy your 12100 system.
 
I am in a similar kind of boat here.
Owning a 5900X that clocks to 4.9Ghz on some cores. Primarily gaming use. The 5800X3D does seem like the better long term option until AM5 becomes a bit more affordable.
I have a 7900XTX Nitro+ and game at 4K/1440p Ultra settings.
Monitor refresh is 144Hz.
I could sell my 5900X and from the proceeds, effectively get a 5800X3D for free, albeit take a loss on what I originally paid for the 5900X 2 years ago.
 
I am in a similar kind of boat here.
Owning a 5900X that clocks to 4.9Ghz on some cores. Primarily gaming use. The 5800X3D does seem like the better long term option until AM5 becomes a bit more affordable.
I have a 7900XTX Nitro+ and game at 4K/1440p Ultra settings.
Monitor refresh is 144Hz.
I could sell my 5900X and from the proceeds, effectively get a 5800X3D for free, albeit take a loss on what I originally paid for the 5900X 2 years ago.

not worth the sidegrade IMO - Do you do any form of multitasking? if not then fair enough do the 5800x3d
 
Similar position here, too. Have a Ryzen 3900X with an RTX 3090 FE and use an ultra wide monitor at 1440p. Can get a reasonable price for both the 5800X3D and 5950X. Not interested in going all in on AMD gen 5 / DDR5 etc at the moment. Will likely sit out this current generation and jump in once the new platform has matured. Used to do quite a bit of video & photography editing, but less so now. Part of me is tempted to go with the 5800X3D for MS Flight Sim, but I may regret the reduced cores for productivity.
 

Well if this news is indeed true, for sure big time the 5800X3D.

The fact that Zen 5 being almost 2 years if not 2 years or more away is still going to only have 8 cores per chiplet leads me to believe games will not have any meaningful benefit from more than 8 cores anytime in the next 5 years. Given games are so latency sensitive and there is a big latency penalty crossing chiplets, I highly doubt any games are going to be coded to go beyond 8 cores given its already hard enough to get games to even use 8 threads given the nature of games compared to other apps to scale to lots of threads.
 
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