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5960X or 6900K? Which one for Gaming, Videoing, 3Danimating and more...

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Hi all,

I will be upgrading my supercomputer in the next few days, with two 1080s, new board and new CPU.

I am aware of other threads, but I am really only considering those two CPUs:
5960X and 6900K. OC-wise the 5960X can go up to 4.6 and the 6900K to 4.4 as far as I'm concerned. What does it depend on? Would a £500 motherboard make a difference comparing to a £250 motherboard? Would (water)cooling MOSFEts and the Chipset make any difference?
Both have 8 cores, but the biggest difference I am seeing is transistor's size, 22 and 14nm.

My system is water cooled, with a massive radiator from a car :D if this makes any difference.

I am using my PC for a lot of stuff.

Which one should I go for? And what would be your reason?
 
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=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
6900K - its newer.

No reason to choose a 5960X over Broadwell.
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It's cheaper and it overclocks better (the 5960x vs 6900k) are two good reasons


Also, the Core i7-5690X ran stably up to 4.8GHz, and it was possible to get it going at 5.0GHz with a core voltage of 1.5V. Intel's Core i7-6900K can't even come close to matching those numbers.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,review-33569-9.html

As it currently stands broadwell-e is a sidegrade at best and overclocked heavily is generally inferior (for the same core count)

But if you're an overclocker, the Core i7-5930K is a better alternative to the -6850K, and Intel's Core i7-5960X trumps the -6900K. At the same clock rates, Intel's Haswell-E generation is easier to cool.
 
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^ did u test this.

5960x overclocking higher for me consistently. Especially cache. So for the stuff I tried cinebench and games for example. 5960x at 4.6 beating 6900k at 4.3 which was a decent OC on the samples I have.
 
if you need lots of cores i would think about getting an Z10PE-D8 WS and two Xeon E5-2630 v4. They have lower Ghz but they are 10 core Broadwell cpu's and are 2.2-3.1Ghz so should be ok for most games and be very good for app that need the cores. The E5-2630 v4 are about £560 so two cost more than a 6900K but less than a 6950X. You could also just get one E5-2630 v4 and add a second later. I dont know how or if they overclock but i think the Z10PE-D8 WS might have overclocking.
 
5960x all day long

i know they are both 8-core and the same price but one is an extreme edition and one is not

5960X has a much better ring to it than 6900K

as for performace you wont know any difference between the 2 when overclocked

with the 5960x your likely to get a J batch which should be good for 4.5-4.6

which should make it even or surpass the 4.2-4.3 your likely to get with broadwell-e
 
Hi all,

thanks for your input.

Is it possible to know what batch the CPU is, say before I buy it? :D

In relation to Xeon's, the idea of having so many cores :] is great, but I think I'm gonna skip it this time. I'm switching from i7-2600K, 4 cores.

Don't get me wrong, but I'm not really sure what the difference between the X and the K is.

Also, the new 6900K allegedly supports faster RAM?
 
The IMC on BW-E is no better the Haswell E for sure when it comes to overclocking..

In this case the Haswell E X is the same as the BW E K. Both fully unlocked 40 PCI x lanes 8c 16t..

No Xeon equivalent to 6950x or 6900k but Xeon equivalent 5960x exists which is fully overclock enable.
 
zYx said:
8 Pack, what motheboard do you have? what are the temperatures?
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I have all the boards OCUK stock plus some we don't yet.

Temps are fine with none avx load progs. Avx load is insane temps and power draw.
 
zYx said:
Hi all,

thanks for your input.

Is it possible to know what batch the CPU is, say before I buy it? :D
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Id say likely a J batch if buying a haswell E cpu theese days. General concensus is that they clock a lot better than earlier ones.
 
shamus21 said:
Yes but it is finding out who have the J batch in stock.
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Other than ocuk selling the pre tested 8pack 5960x's (which are out of stock by the looks of it) it's always a gamble but if you buy new from a retailer like ocuk with a fairly high turnover of stock chances are by now that you I'll get a 'J' batch. Otherwise sellers don't generally list the batch number for cpu's (although I think ocuk have previously listed different cpu revisions in terms of 'stepping' for the same chip like the 920d0 (as opposed to the 920c0) and the Q6600g0 stepping cpu's but stepping is not the same as batches as far as I am aware with changes to Stepping indicating an actual change to the lithographic procedure used to make the CPU itself
 
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I am in the same boat (also opened a thread about it), and I am going with the 5960x. Its tried and tested, the chances of higher stable overclock are higher, its also cheaper. It would have been nice if the 6900k provided a solid case for a better performance, but all the evidence point to a very small improvement at clock and an inferior performance when OCed.

Would be interested to hear what motherboard you end up with :)
 
haha this is almost like being wine from a certain year. anyway if im planning to get two 1080gtx with moderate workload (50+ tabs on google chrome when doing academic journal research) what would i7 6700 beat haswell broade?
 
Nbuilder said:
I am in the same boat (also opened a thread about it), and I am going with the 5960x. Its tried and tested, the chances of higher stable overclock are higher, its also cheaper. It would have been nice if the 6900k provided a solid case for a better performance, but all the evidence point to a very small improvement at clock and an inferior performance when OCed.

Would be interested to hear what motherboard you end up with :)
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I'm thinking asus strix. I was considering R5E or Deluxe II, but I probably don't need all those extras. What about you? What motherboard are your considering?

My basket is now "full" and I'm (almost) ready to buy.
 
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