£6 broadband levy may be trebled for homes with multiple lines

edscdk · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:23

if you want better broadband you can always move? I'd not move to a villege without a tescos then try and make them build on there...

happy_2008 · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:25

I have only just come back on holiday from HK where they have super fast broadband for a mega whopping $100 a month which equates to around £7.50 a month

rsatd · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:28

happy_2008 said:
I have only just come back on holiday from HK where they have super fast broadband for a mega whopping $100 a month which equates to around £7.50 a month

That is what I pay for 8down, and either 1.5 or 2 up, Adsl, in fact several pence less

. This tax^2 can go to hell.

You make your choice where you live, so you live with it. If I choose to go and live in the sahara, do you think I have a right to complain about lack of running water?

Reza86 · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:29

I don't mind paying taxes, they go towards making things better for those who are less fortunate than myself. also when I finally make a shed load of money and want to live in the country I will want decent broadband.

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:30

rsatd said:
That is what I pay for 8down, and either 1.5 or 2 up, Adsl, in fact several pence less . This tax^2 can go to hell.

You make your choice where you live, so you live with it. If I choose to go and live in the sahara, do you think I have a right to complain about lack of running water?

Britain is a small island. We aren't talking about people living in remote areas complaining they can't get decent broadband, we're talking about millions of people who live in major urban areas, or near to urban areas who only get mediocre speeds or line quality.

rsatd · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:31

Reza86 said:
I don't mind paying taxes, they go towards making things better for those who are less fortunate than myself. also when I finally make a shed load of money and want to live in the country I will want decent broadband.

Then you can afford sattelite, they offer decent rates. I only help those who help themselves, not leech from others. Tax on a tax is not on.

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:33

rsatd said:
Then you can afford sattelite, they offer decent rates. I only help those who help themselves, not leech from others. Tax on a tax is not on.

Satellite is prohibitively expensive and useless for time sensitive applications like gaming due to high pings.

rsatd · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:33

dirtydog said:
Britain is a small island. We aren't talking about people living in remote areas complaining they can't get decent broadband, we're talking about millions of people who live in major urban areas, or near to urban areas who only get mediocre speeds or line quality.

Then complain to your isp, get enough people in the area, and pay for the upgrade. Why should I pay for you? Give me one good reason, why I should for something you can live without. Gaming is not a right. It is something you do for fun.

One example:
* Sky Broadband is only available with a Sky TV package (from £16.50 per month)

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:34

rsatd said:
Then complain to your isp, get enough people in the area, and pay for the upgrade. Why should I pay for you? Give me one good reason, why I should for something you can live without. Gaming is not a right. It is something you do for fun.

I don't support this tax, I didn't say you should pay more for me, I am pointing out that it isn't just people who live in remote areas who get mediocre internet performance.

And my ISP does not provide the wire to my house, BT does.

rsatd · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:37

Then group together with people from your community and make BT a decent offer to part pay for an upgrade.

Sorry if it seems I am going at you, but I am just unhappy with this tax^2

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:38

rsatd said:
One example:
* Sky Broadband is only available with a Sky TV package (from £16.50 per month)

one example of what?

You do realise that isn't satellite broadband, right?

Knubje · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:40

So from what I understand it's only affecting those with MORE THAN one phone line?

That's not so bad as I only have one

Question is, how do they regulate/apply it? Does it affect only BT customers (as I assume this is who it will affect for ADSL?) Or will it be ANY telephone provider?

jas72 · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:40

edscdk said:
everyone would like a fast connection but only people on lower than 512k need one...

legal torrents (yer right)

on demand TV (nice but not necessary, why not download them and watch them off line)

Porn, pirated films / music / applications, watching a tv program now and not in 3 hour all good but not worth investing billions on...

are people seriously saying we should spend untold millions so they can pirate software, while browing the internet and playing Wow???

Indeed. The goverment makes most profit from online sales of goods not through ondemand TV. Nor will that ever be anything expect a very niche market. You are exactly right those that need highspeed broadband need it for illegal downloading.

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:42

jas72 said:
You are exactly right those that need highspeed broadband need it for illegal downloading.

I'll let someone else explain why this is rubbish.

86JR · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:43

If i sync at 4mbit now and get 12kb/s every day, whats to say "superfast broadband" will be any faster ? More excuse to tax us.

Indy500 · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:43

jas72 said:
Indeed. The goverment makes most profit from online sales of goods not through ondemand TV. Nor will that ever be anything expect a very niche market. You are exactly right those that need highspeed broadband need it for illegal downloading.

Games on Steam, and MSDNAA software, frequently run into multiple gigabytes. Those are just two examples.

rsatd · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:43

dirtydog said:
one example of what?

You do realise that isn't satellite broadband, right?

Ok I just went through sky website, and got their basic package:
£30 one off cost
£23.50 monthly.

dirtydog · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:45

rsatd said:
Ok I just went through sky website, and got their basic package:
£30 one off cost
£23.50 monthly.

Yeah, that is NOT satellite broadband, it comes down BT's wires like all other DSL does.

edscdk · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:50

sr4470 said:
Games on Steam, and MSDNAA software, frequently run into multiple gigabytes. Those are just two examples.

you can still download gigabytes over a 256k connection... you can also get the software on CD / DVD...

I'm dont want the government spending million so someone can download a game in 10mins instead of 5 hours...

Indy500 · 26 Nov 2009 at 12:55

edscdk said:
you can still download gigabytes over a 256k connection... you can also get the software on CD / DVD...

I have short deadlines to meet, and after being stuck on 1-2Mbit for so long at the old place, O2's 20Mbit ADSL2 is a godsend. I also don't like hanging around for hours for Linux distributions either. The MSDNAA service I receive is online-only I'm afraid.

edscdk said:
I'm dont want the government spending million so someone can download a game in 10mins instead of 5 hours...

I believe their intention is to bring broadband at 2Mbit to less well connected areas. So that doesn't apply to my London suburb which has had ADSL and cable for a decade, with an exchange serving 13,000 premises (which is why it has several ADSL2 providers).

If anything, I'd be one of the people subsiding this plan...