600 quid ex.vat

well my case is a total flop it has no back cover, has some dodgy stock 350w psu
mouse and keyboard can be taken outta my pocket
and i aint got no 64 bit os sooo....prob need os too
 
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any views?
 
Marine-RX179 said:
If you don't need harddrive or Windows included it this, then this does seem to be decent out-of-the-box performance for the budget (because of the pre-overclock). Hwoever the motherboard in the bundle won't be able to crossfire properly, because of the 2nd PCI-E only offer 4x.


You could probably get a Phenom II X4 build (no pre-overclock included- buying parts individually) for that price range.

Phenom II X4 no Crossfire build, with USB3.0 and 6Gb/s SATA motherboard:
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Phenom II X4 Crossfire ready build, with USB3.0 and 6Gb/s SATA motherboard:
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I would still go for the Zalman Z7 Plus Midi Tower Case instead of the Coolermaster Elite 334 Midi Case

The Coolermaster Elite 334 only comes with the rear 120mm fan, whereas the Zalman Z7 Plus is spacy, well-laid out and comes with front, rear and side, and side-panel fans by default.
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How good is a pheno x4 blk in terms of gaming?
and i think dad wont mind pushing up the budget if it makes it more future proof
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
8x on PCI-E 2.0 is pretty much as fast as 16x PCI-E 1.0, so there is no drop is speed/performance for graphic card crossfiring in 8x/8x.

The motherboard in Brian8bit's build is a the cheapest AM3 motherboard that's capable of proper Crossfire, but it has an older chipset, and does not have USB3.0 or SATA 6Gb/s like the Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AMD 890GX (£109.99) I quoted. You can save £20 with his board if you don't mind missing out a newer chipset, USB3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s.
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thers no point on saving 20 quid on little little things cause at the end of the day u buy new pcs after a few years if u wanna save a quick buk and then u end up have to upgrade in a few months i dont see the point
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Now this is interesting...didn't realise the retail i5 750 is back in stock and back to reasonable price level as well (it was at £170 before it ran out of stock last time). Also the Gigabyte UD5 board is on this week only offer with £10 discount as well. But the thing is i5 750/1156 platform is more suitable for people that are not planning on Crossfire so they can make a saving by using the decent £85 range motherboards. For more people who want to Crossfire, if they have to pay £140 for a 1156 motherboard, they'd rather stretch the budget further and go i7 920 instead of i5 750.

CPU: i5 750 (£155) vs i7 920 (£168)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5, Crossfire/SLI/3-way SLI, no USB3.0, no 6Gb/s SATA (£140) vs Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58, 2x USB 3.0, 2x SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 0 and 1), Quad SLI/Crossfire (£157)

Crysis (game not optimised for Quad) 1680x1050, DX10, High Detail performance:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 + i5 750@stock 2.66GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 20fps, average 50fps
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 920@stock 2.66GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 34fps, average 56fps
MSI 790FX-GD70 + Phenom II X4 965BE@stock 3.40GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 23fps, average 46fps

Overclock comparison:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 + i5 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 33fps, average 57fps
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 42fps, average 57fps
MSI 790FX-GD70 + Phenom II X4 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 29fps, average 52fps


P.S. Most Socket 1366 motherboard with i7 920 at around 4.0GHz only deliver around minimum 35fps, average 57fps for Crysis at those setting, but because Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is one of the fastest socket 1366 motherboard there is, it actually able to push the minimum frame rate up to 42fps.
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so i7 is btter than a phenox 11 x4 at running bc2?
 
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