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Good points, here's an amended spec:
left out the 6Gb/s sata as he's using an old hdd and unless he's after a c300 he wouldn't use it anyway. I thought it was still up in the air as to whether bulldozer was going to be AM3 compatible? Anyway, here's the intel option
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so the pheox x4 will preform better in bc2 o.o nice
It won't, but it won't be a bottleneck so you could expect the same performance as the i5 with the same gfx card, as the gfx card will be what's limiting performance.
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Phenom II X4 Crossfire ready build, with USB3.0 and 6Gb/s SATA motherboard:
This is a good build TBH and has very good Seasonic made PSU. Get this cheaper RAM which is the same set mentioned in the Core i5 based build and the price will be around £750:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-165-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517
Once you add the Antec PSU to the Core i5 build you are looking at around £790.
Using a 500W PSU for a Crossfire capable build with an HD5850 1GB is a false economy. The motherboard does not have SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 too and socket 1156 is EOL at the beginning
of next year AFAIK.
It is still a decent build though.
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Now this is interesting...didn't realise the retail i5 750 is back in stock and back to reasonable price level as well (it was at £170 before it ran out of stock last time). Also the Gigabyte UD5 board is on this week only offer with £10 discount as well. But the thing is i5 750/1156 platform is more suitable for people that are not planning on Crossfire so they can make a saving by using the decent £85 range motherboards. For more people who want to Crossfire, if they have to pay £140 for a 1156 motherboard, they'd rather stretch the budget further and go i7 920 instead of i5 750.Good points, here's an amended spec:
left out the 6Gb/s sata as he's using an old hdd and unless he's after a c300 he wouldn't use it anyway. I thought it was still up in the air as to whether bulldozer was going to be AM3 compatible? Anyway, here's the intel option
CPU: i5 750 (£155) vs i7 920 (£168)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5, Crossfire/SLI/3-way SLI, no USB3.0, no 6Gb/s SATA (£140) vs Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58, 2x USB 3.0, 2x SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 0 and 1), Quad SLI/Crossfire (£157)
Crysis (game not optimised for Quad) 1680x1050, DX10, High Detail performance:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 + i5 750@stock 2.66GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 20fps, average 50fps
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 920@stock 2.66GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 34fps, average 56fps
MSI 790FX-GD70 + Phenom II X4 965BE@stock 3.40GHz + 5870 1GB: minimum 23fps, average 46fps
Overclock comparison:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 + i5 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 33fps, average 57fps
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 42fps, average 57fps
MSI 790FX-GD70 + Phenom II X4 [email protected] + 5870 1GB: minimum 29fps, average 52fps
P.S. Most Socket 1366 motherboard with i7 920 at around 4.0GHz only deliver around minimum 35fps, average 57fps for Crysis at those setting, but because Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is one of the fastest socket 1366 motherboard there is, it actually able to push the minimum frame rate up to 42fps.
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so i7 is btter than a phenox 11 x4 at running bc2?
Well, bc2 is optimised for quads so it will make less of a difference. An i7 runs 8 threads (although most games so far don't utilise hyperthreading very well if at all), and is very efficient clock for clock compared to a phenom x4. I think these guys are right though, in pointing out that an i7 rig isn't a huge leap away from an i5 (I hadn't investigated it, assuming it would be beyond budget), and that at least that socket might still have some life in it. If, however, that path is beyond your budget, then the phenom setups the guys have been posting up will be more than adequate, as well as providing a good upgrade path.
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I have pretty much explained it at post #19 of this topic.