64-bit Android set for Q3

thep02 · 25 Feb 2014 at 07:33

mrk said:
Huh, didn't realise it was that soon actually. This changes things. No point getting a new phone at all now if Q3 is when 64bit kicks off. Christmas 2014 is the time to upgrade

I was thinking that re my Note 4 plans. Dang!

V4NT0M · 25 Feb 2014 at 08:16

mrk said:
No point getting a new phone at all now if Q3 is when 64bit kicks off. Christmas 2014 is the time to upgrade

RIZZEE said:
Interesting, might hold off on my upgrade.

thep02 said:
I was thinking that re my Note 4 plans. Dang!

I doubt 64 bit android will make any noticeable end user difference, especially in the short term where no apps will be 64 bit. I guess unless you have some really specific niche requirements, maybe.

In an ecosystem where the lifecycle of a device is around a year there's no point in delaying a purchase for 64bit.

Fallen god · 25 Feb 2014 at 10:05

Thing like the finger scanner in the S5 will be a a lot faster if it was using ARMv8.

thep02 · 25 Feb 2014 at 10:16

Skyfall said:
I doubt 64 bit android will make any noticeable end user difference, especially in the short term where no apps will be 64 bit. I guess unless you have some really specific niche requirements, maybe.

In an ecosystem where the lifecycle of a device is around a year there's no point in delaying a purchase for 64bit.

Folk said that about 1080, ram and cores, as I'm using an s4 I'm happy to wait.

killianzz · 25 Feb 2014 at 16:20

I can't imagine there will be any noticeable difference. It's just something to add to the spec sheets. I definitely wouldn't advise waiting for it unless you are happy with your current phone.

mrk · 25 Feb 2014 at 16:55

There is a difference as has already been linked.

kona786 · 25 Feb 2014 at 17:00

It's worth having but with performance as it is now, I don't think it will blow your mind.

opethdisciple · 25 Feb 2014 at 17:01

Some what related.

Nexus 6 phone to pack 64-bit 8-core Snapdragon 810 chip

kona786 · 25 Feb 2014 at 17:03

opethdisciple said:
Some what related.

Nexus 6 phone to pack 64-bit 8-core Snapdragon 810 chip

Lets hope it pack a worthy screen this time eh!

thep02 · 25 Feb 2014 at 17:08

kona786 said:
Lets hope it pack a worthy screen this time eh!

And camera please.

opethdisciple · 25 Feb 2014 at 17:48

Dont know where to hold of my Nexus 5 purchase.

killianzz · 25 Feb 2014 at 18:28

mrk said:
There is a difference as has already been linked.

Would phones not need more than 4gb worth of ram to take proper advantage of it?

Everything on my phone is instant. Even my powerful desktop doesn't utilise 64bit. I know moving to 64bit is logical progression but I really don't think it's something to get excited over, or even notice unless your running benchmarks.

If it made the chip more battery efficient that would be the best thing about it in my opinion. Does it?

jonneymendoza · 25 Feb 2014 at 20:31

mrk said:
Huh, didn't realise it was that soon actually. This changes things. No point getting a new phone at all now if Q3 is when 64bit kicks off. Christmas 2014 is the time to upgrade

good point

Macro · 25 Feb 2014 at 22:45

Tunney said:
This blog post is a fantastic summary. It's written from an iOS perspective but virtually all of it applies to Android too.

tl;dr - ARM64 is fantastic but the fact that it's 64-bit isn't the main reason why.

Ta

Fallen god · 25 Feb 2014 at 22:54

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4

Here is a great set of bench marks, a lot of the changes are due to the ARMv8 and not really the 64bit, the big gains for example in SHA and AES are al ARMs work.

theone8181 · 26 Feb 2014 at 07:34

killianzz said:
Would phones not need more than 4gb worth of ram to take proper advantage of it?

Everything on my phone is instant. Even my powerful desktop doesn't utilise 64bit. I know moving to 64bit is logical progression but I really don't think it's something to get excited over, or even notice unless your running benchmarks.

If it made the chip more battery efficient that would be the best thing about it in my opinion. Does it?

It does if you want more than 3gb of useable ram in your pc

opethdisciple · 26 Feb 2014 at 10:57

Well it's plain to see that by 2015 I think the standard ram in a handset is going to be 3Gb (+). 64bit mobile o.s's is simply to take advantage of this.

Frenzy · 26 Feb 2014 at 11:14

Whilst this is exciting news in itself, I would anticipate it more if there were useful applications that required this kind of power.

opethdisciple · 26 Feb 2014 at 12:32

More info. Seems to suggest wont be upon us untill 2015.

killianzz · 26 Feb 2014 at 22:43

theone8181 said:
It does if you want more than 3gb of useable ram in your pc

I've never needed more than 4gb of ram. Even the heavy arc map geoprocessing software I often use doesn't utilise more than 4gb and that runs fine. I've never been bottlenecked by it in Photoshop, games etc. I know a lot of people need far more ram in their PC's for a variety of reasons, but why on earth would you need it on a phone? Video processing/encoding? I can't imagine many developers will make apps that can utilise it for ages. This isn't the apple app store where they can force it onto developers.

2GB of ram on my phone means that I have never once even had to think about how much I have got free. If anyone's impatiently waiting to upgrade to 64bit, by the time its of any real usefulness your new phone will be well overdue an upgrade. Pure marketing fluff, in my opinion.