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6700k vs 5820k

If gaming is the main use, a 6700k or a 5820k are a bit pointless. They only help in a few games with multi gpu. Far better off with an i5.
 
so for people who want to move from the i7 920 what is the best performing cpu today that will last like the 920 did ?? People who don't/can't overclock and go for high end at the start. Those that would like the choice of single GPU or sli and also do a good deal of video encoding as well as gaming ...
say the config was :
Phanteks Enthoo Primo
Mobo: ?
CPU: ?
RAM: ?
Cooling: ?
Storage: SSD's all round
GTX 980 (or above)
Sound: Xonar Essence STX2
 
timbo2410 said:
so for people who want to move from the i7 920 what is the best performing cpu today that will last like the 920 did ?? People who don't/can't overclock and go for high end at the start. Those that would like the choice of single GPU or sli and also do a good deal of video encoding as well as gaming ...
say the config was :
Phanteks Enthoo Primo
Mobo: ?
CPU: ?
RAM: ?
Cooling: ?
Storage: SSD's all round
GTX 980 (or above)
Sound: Xonar Essence STX2
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If you really don't want to do any overclocking.... Currently I would say either 5930k for the higher stock clock (3.5ghz / 3.7 ghz turbo) over the 5820k or the 6700(k if you must for the slightly higher stock clocks) [4.0ghz / 4.2ghz turbo for the 6700k]

That's assuming you can get the 6700(k) for a good price (at least cheaper than the 5820k).

The choice between the two would be dependant on how much you value video editing speed over gaming and whether you feel you'll be holding on to the system long enough to benefit from the higher core/thread count in applications /games that are currently not optimised for 4+ cores

Add 16gb of ddr4 2400mhz memory. (all though this would count as overclocking as both x99 and z170 officially only support up to 2133mhz!), your choice of a feature packed z170 or x99 board and a high end air cooler/aio for lower maintance
 
5930 = £469
6700 = £369
I would rather take a little longer with encoding than have drop in game play frames per minute although I am not obsessive about getting stupid frame rates. As long as I get a great, smooth display running 1440 I will be happy although I want as much "quality" as I can again .. without being silly ..
so ... ok ... if I went the 6700k route ...

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Primo

CPU: i7 6700K

Mobo: Maximus VIII Extreme Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 EATX

CPU cooling: OcUK Tech Labs - W16 Watercooling Kit 480

Ram: Avexir Blitz Original Silver 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Quad Channel Memory Kit

GPU: Sli Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 G1 Gaming 4096MB GDDR5

SSD: Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

PSU: Corsair HX1200i 1200W '80 Plus Platinum' Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020070-UK)

OS: Win 10 Pro OEM

What say thee ... comments please
 
Why not a 5820K instead, which is cheaper than both and offers no disadvantages whatsoever? You're already looking at a CPU which offers 8x PCI-E per card, so a 5820K will make no difference in this regard whilst costing less all in.
 
timbo2410 said:
5820 ... tell me more ... comparisons ?... tbh ive read sooo many reviews and im just going back and forth ...
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Truth be told there is very little in it. You can't make a bad choice really. Personally I would go with more cores if you intend to keep it for a few years. Software is only going to make more use of more cores as time goes by.
 
You get the 5930k if you want to quad SLI, because of the extra PCI lanes.

You get the 5820k for anything else.
 
Both setups will do most people most of their tasks. If you are gaming/streaming either will do.. if you spend nights upon nights making media and encoding massive hd files those extra cores will be invaluable.

I think only pro-level users need to truly worry about that extra processing power given by the two oc'd cores. In this argument I think price is king so it is a case of having as many like-for-like parts and then decide between the two CPUs by which is cheaper.

Also someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't over-clocking void the warranty from day one also?

As for your build, you could probably tone down the RAM a good bit and throw the difference towards a 980 ti. Not quite sure what you want 32gb for and at 3600mhz you are really paying massively for incremental performance rises.
 
timbo2410 said:
5930 = £469
6700 = £369
I would rather take a little longer with encoding than have drop in game play frames per minute although I am not obsessive about getting stupid frame rates. As long as I get a great, smooth display running 1440 I will be happy although I want as much "quality" as I can again .. without being silly ..
so ... ok ... if I went the 6700k route ...

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Primo

CPU: i7 6700K

Mobo: Maximus VIII Extreme Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 EATX

CPU cooling: OcUK Tech Labs - W16 Watercooling Kit 480

Ram: Avexir Blitz Original Silver 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Quad Channel Memory Kit

GPU: Sli Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 G1 Gaming 4096MB GDDR5

SSD: Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

PSU: Corsair HX1200i 1200W '80 Plus Platinum' Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020070-UK)

OS: Win 10 Pro OEM

What say thee ... comments please
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You said you wanted 'high end' without overclocking for gaming/encoding the 5930k fits the bill. The 5820k is a lot cheaper and silicon lottery pending just as fast overclocked. Either the 6700k 5830k or the 5820k paired with a good graphics card or two will give you a very good gaming experience for now and going forward. History has shown however that more cores has tended to keep a CPU more useful for longer.... Time will tell if this is going to be true for hex and octo cores cpu's and beyond

You said you didn't want to overclock the give a proposed spec list with 3600mhz memory on it! Thereby suggesting your going to overclock your system anyhow.

Memory instability can be just as troublesome as cpu instability. Personally most of the time when I have been trying to diagnose an occasionally unstable system the fault lie with the memory of power supply.....

You wont need that water cooling setup for a 6700k its total overkill
 
ok ... so ..
cpu .. stay 6700k
ram .. loose the 32 and go for say ... 16gb 3200 mhz
put saved money towards 980ti's instead of 980's
drop in a corsair h110i
is that the general idea
 
Mate, why bother with a h110i when you're not overclocking?

A bit of a waste. Throw in a 212 and be done with it.
 
Without an overclock you will be fine on air. And tbh..if you do overclock a bit on air, it will still be fine.

My 5820k is at 4.5ghz and I see around 40-45 in intensive games. I have a phanteks cooler, the dual 140mm fan one.
 
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