7/7 Opinions

scorza · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:27

Teki187 said:
no from personal experiance of trying to make a phone call at cruising and landing altitudes on Orange and getting zero signal, this is while OVER land.

Why the hell would you try and do that? Do you not listen when they say make sure all mobile phones are switched off? Oh wait, let me guess, you saw a documentary on googlevideo that said it was a conspiracy by the airlines and it was really safe to use your mobile in the air.

iCraig · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:29

Teki187 said:
Why not?

Because you're ignoring the real evidence and focusing on insignificant details that are totally subjective, and calling that evidence for a cover up.

Ok, there's interesting territory here so, you obviously don't believe the story issued to us. What do you believe happened?

ElRazur · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:30

Teki187 said:
Why not?

Most of the thing you mentioned so far are nothing but consiparacy theory and as with all conspiracies, they PURPOSELY ignore the FACT and give everyone a FACTION (a drop of fact mix with 10 bucket of lies)..in other words, no concrete evidence.

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:31

scorza said:
Why the hell would you try and do that? Do you not listen when they say make sure all mobile phones are switched off? Oh wait, let me guess, you saw a documentary on googlevideo that said it was a conspiracy by the airlines and it was really safe to use your mobile in the air.

Yeah like the signs which say "dont use your mobile at a petrol station" yet thats been proven to be complete crap.

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:32

iCraig said:
Because you're ignoring the real evidence and focusing on insignificant details that are totally subjective, and calling that evidence for a cover up.

Ok, there's interesting territory here so, you obviously don't believe the story issued to us. What do you believe happened?

I dont know, simply because we will never know. Yeah sure you see people all the shiny photos of people with backpacks and witnesses saying they saw this and that, but at the end of the day if your going to offer anything as proof, it cant have holes in.

alexakasloth · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:33

Teki187 said:
Yeah like the signs which say "dont use your mobile at a petrol station" yet thats been proven to be complete crap.

They also say don't smoke at petrol stations? Do you?

iCraig · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:33

Teki187 said:
Yeah like the signs which say "dont use your mobile at a petrol station" yet thats been proven to be complete crap.

It's like a pinball your mind, it just shoots off to the next myth or conspiracy.

The reason mobile phones shouldn't be used at petrol stations is pretty obvious. You're operating a pump that can expell litres of petrol in seconds, a mobile phone may distract you and result in you causing a spillage of flammable liquid on the forecourt.

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:35

iCraig said:
It's like a pinball your mind, it just shoots off to the next myth or conspiracy.

The reason mobile phones shouldn't be used at petrol stations is pretty obvious. You're operating a pump that can expell litres of petrol in seconds, a mobile phone may distract you and result in you causing a spillage of flammable liquid on the forecourt.

Funny that, i was always told and by the news that it was due to the signal creating a "spark" with the petrol fluid. Never heard your version.

scorza · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:35

Teki187 said:
Yeah like the signs which say "dont use your mobile at a petrol station" yet thats been proven to be complete crap.

Who by? Mythbusters?

Here's something you ought to read. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/750893.stm

iCraig · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:35

Teki187 said:
I dont know, simply because we will never know. Yeah sure you see people all the shiny photos of people with backpacks and witnesses saying they saw this and that, but at the end of the day if your going to offer anything as proof, it cant have holes in.

Irony alert. You're providing us with evidence that it's a conspiracy, that is full of holes. Do you really expect people to stop and go; "that's amazing, our eyes are opened now to the truth of the evil government!"

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:37

iCraig said:
Irony alert. You're providing us with evidence that it's a conspiracy, that is full of holes. Do you really expect people to stop and go; "that's amazing, our eyes are opened now to the truth of the evil government!"

no simply because for years you've sat down, watched the news and listen to what they want you to hear. Prime example is of the anti protest zone around parliment, Inquiries Act 2005 and lots of other examples over in america where bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights.

alexakasloth · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:38

iCraig said:
Irony alert. You're providing us with evidence that it's a conspiracy, that is full of holes. Do you really expect people to stop and go; "that's amazing, our eyes are opened now to the truth of the evil government!"

Whereas this is presented to us by an anonymous 22 year old and google video, who would we believe out of the aforementioned, and the government with professionals.

Teki187 said:
no simply because for years you've sat down, watched the news and listen to what they want you to hear. Prime example is of the anti protest zone around parliment, Inquiries Act 2005 and lots of other examples over in america where bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights.

What does that have to do with the video being full of plot holes?

dirtydog · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:38

This thread has gone off at several tangents... 9/11, mobiles on planes and at petrol stations...

alexakasloth · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:40

dirtydog said:
This thread has gone off at several tangents... 9/11, mobiles on planes and at petrol stations...

If he can't stick to the video, then he's got to use other conspiracies to back up the first one.

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:42

$loth said:
Whereas this is presented to us by an anonymous 22 year old and google video, who would we believe out of the aforementioned, and the government with professionals.

What does that have to do with the video being full of plot holes?

i never told you this is the truth or anything along them lines, i wanted a discussion about the issues and theories.

iCraig · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:44

Teki187 said:
no simply because for years you've sat down, watched the news and listen to what they want you to hear. Prime example is of the anti protest zone around parliment, Inquiries Act 2005 and lots of other examples over in america where bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights.

This is just sheer conjecture on your part.

What do you mean 'bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights' ?

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:45

scorza said:
Who by? Mythbusters?

Here's something you ought to read. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/750893.stm

"Faults that COULD be attributed to mobile phones use include false cockpit warnings, the malfunctioning of aircraft systems, interference in pilots' headsets and the distraction of cabin crews from their normal duties."

Wheres the test results?

alexakasloth · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:46

Teki187 said:
i never told you this is the truth or anything along them lines, i wanted a discussion about the issues and theories.

You were challenging our view that the video is bullcrap, we discussed. I never said that you said "this is the truth" :confused:

dirtydog · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:46

Teki187 said:
and lots of other examples over in america where bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights.

Making exaggerated or sensationalist claims only gives you and your arguments less credibility. There is no need to exaggerate or sensationalise on these issues when the truth is bad enough. (re civil liberties and so on)

Teki187 · 6 Oct 2006 at 14:47

iCraig said:
This is just sheer conjecture on your part.

What do you mean 'bush has just decided to deny anyone over there any human rights' ?

CIA bugging peoples houses, tapping phones, bush going around congress to introduce laws that he sees fit.

Searching for the information.