7 seater 4x4 with decent mpg?

mikeh501 said:
nissan qashqai+2 is the only 7 seater i can think of which has any hope whatsoever of acheiving 40mpg on average.

(qashqai+2 1.5dci 2WD - 56mpg combined)

Nissan Pathfinder will do 30mpg average. I had one for a couple of years.
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That'd be my suggestion too, there is a 4WD version of the Qashqai but doubt there are that many around.
 
according to the Nissan site theres a 4wd Qashqai with 1.6L stop and start engine, which is slightly off-putting as I haven't heard good things about stop and start.
The 2 litre diesel (also 4wd) claims 39.8 combined, so that may be an option.

Did think about a Landy, but they are a little bit too thirsty for me. Likewise for the M Class.

LPG is a nice idea, but I'm concerned about availability, so I'd prefer to stick with a diesel.

Outlander is still top of my list atm.
 
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Discovery almost meets your requirements, except you won't get 40mpg from it, even the latest 3L V6 diesels don't manage that (~30mpg is realistic for them). It will, however, not get stuck in anything less than a good two+ feet of snow, and as Orch says, it's a proper 4x4.
 
That Outlander's doing OK, but getting lots of wheel spin.

Check out the discovery 2:

No faffing (but it does have front/rear diff locks).
 
Havana_UK said:
That Outlander's doing OK, but getting lots of wheel spin.

Check out the discovery 2:

No faffing (but it does have front/rear diff locks).
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They are Disco 1's which have centre difflock as standard, but not front and rear.

Disco 2's don't have difflock as standard (some of the late models do) and instead have traction control and Hill Decent Control. Both of these systems work excellently.
 
I had a Nissan Pathfinder it's a brilliant 4x4 and one of the favourite vehicles I've owned but I traded it in for a new b class. The £460 tax and fuel costs just became too much to swallow.

Shame really because it's brilliant!
 
That's a parts/reliability issue, not the terrain. They are still top dog for performance.
 
bigjohnsonrichard said:
even capable 4x4s will have trouble in mud such as that with road tyres on.
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No way. I go offroading regularly, mine has mud tyres but some of the others are 100% road spec and you wouldn't believe what they can do (Discovery 2s). All these pretend 4x4s wouldn't stand a chance.
 
bigjohnsonrichard said:
even capable 4x4s will have trouble in mud such as that with road tyres on.
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Go and try a land rover experience day. You simply wouldn't believe what a real 4x4 in totally bog standard road spec can do!

paintguy said:
Clearly the tyres are letting it down rather than the drivetrain as all of the wheels rotating...
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Are they? I can only see two wheels rotating. I assume, since it doesn't have a diff lock, that only the wheels on the right side are rotating...hence not a proper 4x4, which is why it's stuck on a bit of lightly rutted otherwise flat wet ground.
 
This whole real 4x4 vs pretend 4x4 thing isn't just fanboys arguing, its real world performance difference. Have a look who is stuck and who is pulling them out next time it snows.
 
Havana_UK said:
Go and try a land rover experience day. You simply wouldn't believe what a real 4x4 in totally bog standard road spec can do!



Are they? I can only see two wheels rotating. I assume, since it doesn't have a diff lock, that only the wheels on the right side are rotating...hence not a proper 4x4, which is why it's stuck on a bit of lightly rutted otherwise flat wet ground.
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You realise that land rovers don't have lockers either, only front to rear lock.
 
Discovery 1 and Defenders have centre different locks, Discovery 2s have traction control and sometimes centre difflock if retrofitted or a 2004 top model, Disco 3 and 4 have traction control and other electrical toys.
 
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