7" Vinyl player

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Afternoon Guys,

I got given a 7" vinyl for xmas as a gift, a signed tom odell one. I have his album via itunes but thought seens as ive been given the vinyl why not see what it is like.
so i dont have a record player off any sorts, whats the best value to get a player setup as i may well grab some more over the years. I don't want to be spending loads as i'm completly deaf in one ear so don't need any fancy surround sound setup with top speakers as its wasted money as i won't likely see the benefit.

Budget isn't massive as its just gone xmas but looking for a full setup for less than £300 if i can. If it's not just a standalone player i'll get the bits month by month to give me soemthing to look forward to.


Cheers
 
i got my dad this "Ion Audio Max LP | USB Digital Conversion Turntable Vinyl record player with Built-in Stereo Speakers" for £79.99 for christmas and he loves it, he's got all his old records out from the 70's now and they still work, the sound is good too (for us it is) and doesn't have to be plugged into a pc and you can add your own speakers to it if you wanted to.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00COC61LO?

theres no adjustable bass and other buttons etc though
 
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that looks pretty tidy and at a good price. Might have a look into speakers for plugging into it. i must admit my knowledge on audio stuff is pretty dire!
will that work with full size and the 7" vinyls or just the full size ones?
 
Imo, you've got two choices. Just download the track from somewhere for a few quid and stop kidding yourself that the record will be any better...or

If you want to start a vinyl collection, spend a few quid on a used\vintage deck and a photo stage\dac if necessary.

I got a mint 1990s Thorens turntable off eBay and a cheap phone stage for about 120 quid total recently and it sounds great. I'd definitely take this route rather than buying a cheap nasty USB turntable.
 
You've got one single (that's what these 7" discs made out of vinyl are called.. Singles.... Vinyl is what they're made from. You don't say "I'm playing a 7" vinyl" any more than you say "I'm driving on a Tarmac.") Anyway, you've got one single, and it's a signed one at that. If it is to be worth anything in the future (and that's highly speculative but we won't dwell on that) then condition is everything. Mint condition - and that means unplayed - discs are the ones that get most money usually. Unless you plan to buy a lot more records then I'd think twice about sinking your hard earned into a vinyl system. That's coming from a vinyl junkie.

£300 isn't quite enough to spend on new gear to do the medium justice. If you are going to do something then I'd say used is the way to go, but it's a very steep learning curve not only to work out what makes and models to buy, but also in assessing the gear once you're in front of a seller so you don't end up buying something with a good name that happens to be broken.

If you're still keen to go ahead that have a look through this forum for threads from other novice buyers and you'll soon see a pattern of makes and models to look for. After that then come back as ask for further advice. :)
 
Thanks for the responses
I don't think it will be better quality than what ive got from itunes , so not expecting that.
I'll have a read up on them a bit more, i did have a look online but most articles advised one thing then most of the comments slated the article for being wrong.

I'm not massively bothered about value of the single, i'm happy it's signed as i like the artist, not in it for the money. I don't intend on having a big collection but it would be nice to have the ones that i've loved growing up on a nicely presented medium .

There is a lot of records in my house stored away but i doubt my dad would appreciate me using them as he's had them from when he was younger.
 
havign a read online and someting like this http://www.richersounds.com/package/system-savers/hi-fi-system-deals/pah012495
looks like it would include everything i need (bar cables) the player gets good reviews. the amplifier will be handy for putting my PS4, tV and hopefully my PC throug.

It's more than i'd ideally like to spend but the amplifier and the speakers i will have a look on ebay for and the local music shop incase they have some on sale.

Would this do the job?
 
always4lora said:
that looks pretty tidy and at a good price. Might have a look into speakers for plugging into it. i must admit my knowledge on audio stuff is pretty dire!
will that work with full size and the 7" vinyls or just the full size ones?
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yeah my knowledge is very bad and i'm probably not worth listening to lol, i'm half deaf in one ear anyway lol :p

it will work with 7, 10 and 12 inch records and has an adapter for the wide hole 7's

it is very basic though, the arm doesn't even move back home when it's finished playing lol
 
Quick update, my brother said i can have his AV receiver for nothing so should save me some money.
The receiver is a Sony STR-DG820 which gets good reviews, i believe this has no phono input so i will need an additional phono input which i can get using a PROJECT
PHONO BOX MM is this correct?
So i would have the turntable into the phono input on the phono box and then that plugged into the amp?
I'm currently bidding on a Project Debut III turntable, i'm in no rush so will keep an eye on these and similar and if no joy eventually get a project essentials II/
 
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Fortune ?.... £300? .... As Lucid posted here :- http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18710673
In real terms it's got cheaper and better performance.

I had the Dual CS505 back in the 80's, it cost me more compared to months wages than someone today on the minimum working wage buying an entry level Project deck.....
Mechanical devises done well will always cost more than a few chips in an amp or DAC.
 
I've been struggling to find a 'new' player that has speed change without having to take the plater off and change the belt placement. Rega RP1 / Project Elemental/ essential .
The Marantz TT5005 has a button which is good so i was leaning towards this. I don't mind paying more than i originally expected to pay as i no longer to need to factor in the cost of the amp for something that meets what i require/want.
 
The Marantz is less than your budget, but you'd like to pay more to get a speed change button, for one record, to plug into and old crappy AV amp. Are you not wasting your money chasing this fantasy?
Why not just collect the few signed records you want and put them on the wall ... then stream the music..... save yourself about 400 quid !

To make vinyl worthwhile, which is to get to appreciate it's unique sound it costs a lot and needs a lot of dedication, time and hassle, which I don't think people who see it as fashionable have realise.

1) Records need to be kept clean, ideally buy a cleaning machine (mines on back order).
2) Store the records in poly sleeves not the paper crap they sometimes come in
3) You need a good deck .....
4) You need to very carefully site on a shelf free of vibration and noise, it needs to be dead level and rigid
5) You need to keep the stylus clean.
6) Stylus will need replacing every few years of few hundred hours of use
7) Belts need replacing (Unless it's direct drive, then will cost more to get a good one if such exists)
8) Bearings need oiling.
9) You need good phono stage
10) Records are expensive to buy (easily £20 ago)
11) Used will be dirty ( see item 1)
12) Need a good Hi-Fi set-up to appreciate 1-11

My advise, don't bother, invest in a good quality streamer and Hi-Fi system
 
9designs2 said:
The Marantz is less than your budget, but you'd like to pay more to get a speed change button, for one record, to plug into and old crappy AV amp. Are you not wasting your money chasing this fantasy?
Why not just collect the few signed records you want and put them on the wall ... then stream the music..... save yourself about 400 quid !

To make vinyl worthwhile, which is to get to appreciate it's unique sound it costs a lot and needs a lot of dedication, time and hassle, which I don't think people who see it as fashionable have realise.

1) Records need to be kept clean, ideally buy a cleaning machine (mines on back order).
2) Store the records in poly sleeves not the paper crap they sometimes come in
3) You need a good deck .....
4) You need to very carefully site on a shelf free of vibration and noise, it needs to be dead level and rigid
5) You need to keep the stylus clean.
6) Stylus will need replacing every few years of few hundred hours of use
7) Belts need replacing (Unless it's direct drive, then will cost more to get a good one if such exists)
8) Bearings need oiling.
9) You need good phono stage
10) Records are expensive to buy (easily £20 ago)
11) Used will be dirty ( see item 1)
12) Need a good Hi-Fi set-up to appreciate 1-11

My advise, don't bother, invest in a good quality streamer and Hi-Fi system
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Not sure what the issue is ; it's not a fantasy, something I may like . I suggested the marrantz as it was one I noticed had the selection button . The AV amp gets good reviews so doubt it's crappy as you nicely put it .
Is it a waste of money ? Well maybe but the amp is free , speakers I am getting regardless of having an turntable or not so its just the extra bit of money for the turntable which I may or may not get much use out off . It'll be nice to go over some of my dad's old records with him too . If I don't get the use of want out of it I can always resell , at the cost of a few hundred it's not the end of the world if I loose a bit in selling 2nd hand .
Thanks for the notes on what's required, does sound a bit of work but not an issue if I enjoy it.
I'll be getting a good hifi my getting the AV receiver and decent speakers :-)
 
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If you interest is in enjoying two channel vinyl with some convenience I would look to get a second hand (preferably from a dealer) Linn Axis, which has an electronic speed change and a fine sounding deck.... It will be a few years old as they are no longer made.
Prices with the renewed interest in vinyl are a bit all over the place, but I'd expect about £350.
Then a stereo amp, with a phono stage, some good prices going on some classic 80-90's kit... Creek 4040 or 5050, Linn Intek or Majik-I... Arcam Delta series, Naim Nait, Audiolab (original series).... Some times some bargains on old Quad amps.

for example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREEK-CAS-4040-STEREO-AMPLIFIER-/121854495327?hash=item1c5f180a5f:g:nvAAAOSwUdlWeYai

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Linn-Axis-Turntable-/221984965701?hash=item33af55c445:g:MQAAAOSwHaBWiVi3

Oh I have no link to the sellers, just searched for a quick example :)
Buying old classic brands will hold value far better than some discount warehouse specials you'll never be able to get rid of ;)
 
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