737-800 down in China

It seems like they either still struggling to decode the cockpit voice recorder or there is some other issue surronding it, because as far as I know they still haven't released a transcript of what was said by the pilots at that point. With that information we would know for sure what was happening in the cockpit.
 
automated planes the only way to be sure it wont happen again.

I mean, we allowed pilots to be locked in the cockpit to be safe from terrorists, except that seems to also cause issues where they can be locked in the cockpit effectively becoming the terrorists.
 
It seems like they either still struggling to decode the cockpit voice recorder or there is some other issue surronding it, because as far as I know they still haven't released a transcript of what was said by the pilots at that point. With that information we would know for sure what was happening in the cockpit.
Nobody has officially released anything as far as I am aware? The recent news is leaked from US investigators I think?
 
automated planes the only way to be sure it wont happen again.
No, worst possible suggestion. Aeroplanes are quite capable of flying themselves in normal circumstances but just go and watch some of the big jet videos from gusty days, those landings couldn't be handled by automation.
 
No, worst possible suggestion. Aeroplanes are quite capable of flying themselves in normal circumstances but just go and watch some of the big jet videos from gusty days, those landings couldn't be handled by automation.

I'm 100% sure that a computer could actually handle those situations better actually
 
I'm 100% sure that a computer could actually handle those situations better actually
I stand to be corrected but I believe that the crosswind autoland limits are always lower than those which pilots can handle manually.
 
I stand to be corrected but I believe that the crosswind autoland limits are always lower than those which pilots can handle manually.

That's correct. Autoland is only used in low visibility generally speaking. It takes a huge amount of pilot input and judgement based on experience and feel of the aircraft in poor weather, which IMHO would be far far too risky to allow to be automated.
 
Why are you 100% sure about that?

Because AI will do a better job of anything that humans can do as long as it has access to the information needed, it can be programmed with 100,000 simulations worth of scenarios and know how to react better than humans, it has faster reaction times, this isn't even a question for anyone who understands how powerful AI is.
 
Because AI will do a better job of anything that humans can do as long as it has access to the information needed, it can be programmed with 100,000 simulations worth of scenarios and know how to react better than humans, it has faster reaction times, this isn't even a question for anyone who understands how powerful AI is.

The problem being whilst AI can be programmed with 100,000 scenarios it can only carry out 1 at a time so if the 100,000 scenarios doesn't cover the problem at least a human can use experience to "best guess" an appropriate response whilst an AI, just due to the limitation of programming of "if X then do A" , can't simply "guess".

Its an issue which won't be solved anytime soon and, until it is, we'll "feel" safer with a fallable human in charge.
 
Because AI will do a better job of anything that humans can do as long as it has access to the information needed, it can be programmed with 100,000 simulations worth of scenarios and know how to react better than humans,
And when that scenario comes up that's never been experienced before or is slightly out of scope and which a pilot is able to deal with but the AI can't, the plane will crash and everyone dies.
 
The problem being whilst AI can be programmed with 100,000 scenarios it can only carry out 1 at a time so if the 100,000 scenarios doesn't cover the problem at least a human can use experience to "best guess" an appropriate response whilst an AI, just due to the limitation of programming of "if X then do A" , can't simply "guess".

Its an issue which won't be solved anytime soon and, until it is, we'll "feel" safer with a fallable human in charge.

It's not 100,000 scenarios, it's 100,000 simulations WORTH of scenarios. Basically an AI pilot can have the equivalent of millions of hours of flying time experience in all sorts of conditions which a human pilot will never have experienced.

We already have self piloting drones, the AI unit for an airliner could be exponentially bigger than those in drones, how many self piloting drones crashes have there been?

 
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I'll go with the pilot over a glorified spread sheet everytime. If anything, ground checks for personnel need to be improved to try and stop this sort of thing happening.
 
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