737-800 down in China

Chuk_Chuk · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:28

People need to rein in their theories about pilot sucide, they are not helpful.

arknor · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:30

Chuk_Chuk said:
People need to rein in their theories about pilot sucide, they are not helpful.

then close the thread and end all speculation.
I thought this was a discussion forum where people discuss stuff.

may aswell just instantly close any thread as soon as they are created and not allow comments

delta0 · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:31

Chuk_Chuk said:
People need to rein in their theories about pilot sucide, they are not helpful.

It being the pilot can also include pilot error.

Scougar · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:37

Holy heck. This is terrible

soundb0y · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:40

Video is terrifying

inferno · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:40

I am a pilot and the Chinese have been subjecting pilots to some really nuts restrictions during covid. Looks like it was mechanical or some kind of suicide. Terrible.

sanaxe1 · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:42

I've seen the crash footage and I have never seen a plane go down at that angle before it was literally vertical.

Chuk_Chuk · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:42

arknor said:
then close the thread and end all speculation.
I thought this was a discussion forum where people discuss stuff.

may aswell just instantly close any thread as soon as they are created and not allow comments

I've been watching a lot of plane crash review videos prior to all of this and I've learnt that there is soo much that can go wrong in a plane that automatically assuming it is pilot sucide based on a video alone is nothing more than pointless fear mongering.

arknor · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:44

Chuk_Chuk said:
I've been watching a lot of plane crash review videos prior to all of this and I've learnt that there is soo much that can go wrong in a plane that automatically assuming it is pilot sucide based on just a video is nothing more than pointless fear mongering.

whenever they go straight down or fly into a mountain it's tended to be on purpose.
even if it's not pilot suicide it's probably pilot error like it usually is in those programmes you've been watching.

planes don't just fall from the sky.

you want people to not talk about it? like all the people that get reported as falling from balconies.

CapitalOne · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:44

delta0 said:
Not sure. Also I see the image posted earlier shows it at 30,000ft, I had seen in another article it was at FL30. I will assume the image posted earlier is correct and therefore this is not likely to be MCAS. More than enough room to recover from a stall or to override any anti stall mechanism. I go back to this being the pilot.

Not a MAX, no MCAS.

Russinating · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:46

I've flown out of Kunming with China Eastern, brings it a bit closer to home! That said, flights get as much press as sharks; no fatalities in the prior 12 years and how many flights in that time etc.

Thoughts with all the passengers and their families whatever the cause.

dlockers · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:46

Chuk_Chuk said:
I've been watching a lot of plane crash review videos prior to all of this and I've learnt that there is soo much that can go wrong in a plane that automatically assuming it is pilot sucide based on a video alone is nothing more than pointless fear mongering.

Here we go chaps - "there is always two sides to a story" bot has shown up

delta0 · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:46

CapitalOne said:
Not a MAX, no MCAS.

I think it is something else due to the altitude. All aircraft have anti-stall systems of some kind but based into the altitude and that it was straight down I don’t think it was that kind of system.

Chuk_Chuk · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:52

arknor said:
whenever they go straight down or fly into a mountain it's tended to be on purpose.

I can see your reasoning but do you have stats for that.

arknor said:
even if it's not pilot suicide it's probably pilot error like it usually is in those programmes you've been watching.

I never said or commented about pilot error. I mentioned pilot sucide.

arknor said:
you want people to not talk about it? like all the people that get reported as falling from balconies.

Nice strawman to finish off your post

dLockers said:
Here we go chaps - "there is always two sides to a story" bot has shown up

There is. One side is the OCUK forums the other side is the flight data recorder

Kenai · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:52

Looking at previous flight playbacks, the point where it has gone straight down, is not too dissimilar to the point at which that flight normally starts its routine descent for landing - to me it would seem most likely they've attempted to commence a normal descent and something has gone wildly wrong - whether that's mechanical or pilot, we'll hopefully discover in time.

FBi7 · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:53

Oh my goodness, that's truly awful. RIP.

@Feek *FL300, although it could be FL290 being just below the 30000 feet line.

@robfosters think you mean feet per minute there chap. Per second would be an even quicker descent than the one in this incident.

CapitalOne · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:53

I can recommend PPRune for additional info/insights. Apologies in advance to the mods if this isn't allowed!

peterwalkley · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:54

Whatever the cause I hope for the families sakes the answer comes quickly. At least with it being on land the black box should be recoverable.

RIP.

dlockers · 21 Mar 2022 at 10:55

Chuk_Chuk said:
There is. One side is the OCUK forums the other side is the flight data recorder

Do yourself a favour then - to quell your rage - just opt out of discussion forums and just browse history books where enough time has passed for there to "only be the facts".

Chuk_Chuk · 21 Mar 2022 at 11:05

dLockers said:
Do yourself a favour then - to quell your rage - just opt out of discussion forums and just browse history books where enough time has passed for there to "only be the facts".

Responds to me with a joke, gets upset because i responded back with a joke. :rolleyes:

Any rage you got from my post is in your head.