i suppose quite a few people would be happy with getting the cheapest £/kg bird they can get, like your one from Asda there, but others prefer quality food.. a good quality fresh free range organic turkey will set you back upto £20/kg
£74 for christmas dinner
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i suppose quite a few people would be happy with getting the cheapest £/kg bird they can get, like your one from Asda there, but others prefer quality food.. a good quality fresh free range organic turkey will set you back upto £20/kg
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Our turkey is over 74quid on it's own.
Psycho Sonny in another great input shocker. 20quid frozen asda turkey? You're taking the mick...
Psycho Sonny in another great input shocker. 20quid frozen asda turkey? You're taking the mick...
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LOL what? You make two assumptions:
1) People don't care about food
2) We all buy Turkey for christmas
Fresh or frozen doesn't matter quite frankly, we've had amazing quality Turkeys from local farms who freeze on site, it's actually advantageous.
However we haven't eaten turkey at Christmas for years now.
Lol, frozen makes littel difference. The breed, how it lives OT life and the food it eats makes the difference.
Got a 3kilo Gloucester old spot pork belly coming, which will be frozen as is all my meat. Which tbh doesn't cost the world £34 and £10 of that's postage. Also free range chicken and more pork belly for the starter coming as well.
Miller and Budweiser? Probably the two poorest beers on the shelves. If I turned up and someone had that beer to serve then I wouldn't be very happy. I like good tastes, and you often have to pay a premium for quality.
£3 bottles of wine are good for getting drunk on whilst you're a student and what not, they have no place on a dinner table.
You've been posting some half decent replies recently, but now you're back to your old rubbish.
Don't you know, you probably can't even tell the difference in cheap or expensive wine either, its just consumerism making you think it does
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bud and miller are the most popular lagers in the world? or have i got that wrong? therefore im sure the majority of people would be happy with them. in fact every time im in asda, i see guys buying more than 1 case at a time, especially in december, i see some guy's buying 10 at a time.
the £3.33 wines may not be amazing, but im sure you can get a nice pinot grigio for £5. not the £10-£100 bottles some people have been buying i bet, but still you can get a nice bottle for a fiver. in fact in my previous business when i was buying wines wholesale, i was buying them in for £3 odd and selling them at £12 at a time, nobody complained.
people saying you need to spend £300 for christmas dinner are being ridiculous, just like the people who say you need to spend a minimum of ££££ on an engagement ring.
there is no minimum amount, people should spend whatever they feel is right, not what society and consumerism has told them is right.
just because you drink some obscure not well known lagers, doesn't mean the other 95% of drinkers on the planet do as well.
if you want to up the stakes you can get a case of corona for £10 in asda.
i know a lot of people love that stuff.
For a start, Budweiser nor Miller would 'go' with what you'd have for Christmas dinner. You don't want something sharp, you want something with a bit more depth. A brown ale would work nicely, or perhaps something a bit malty. Fullers would work, for example.
People drink Budweiser and Miller because they are following consumerism, they are doing everything you are complaining about. I've treated people who exclusively drink those beers to other, more obscure ones, and every single time, without fail, the people have preferred what I've offered them.
I don't drink obscure, unknown beers. 99% of the beer I buy to drink at home comes from ASDA or Tesco. I only drink obscure stuff if I've been abroad, in a beer bar or am particularly flush and able to order from beersofeurope.
I'd argue that the majority of people in Glasgow have poor tastes, remember what Gordon Ramsay said about us?
I like wine, my father (who prepares our Christmas dinner) loves wine and is very knowledgeable about it. We think that it's worth buying a few lovely reds (we actually drink relatively inexpensive Cava and other fizz rather than Champagne) and are happy to pay the price for them as we think they are worth it. I'm well aware of restaurant markups, and buying wine when out for dinner is a total minefield but with a tiny bit of knowledge (about pairings) you can often pick something appropriate and something you can afford.
I'm not denying that there isn't a great deal of 'cheap' £5ish bottles of wine, and I'll often spend not more than that for a bottle for a night, or a dinner. However, on special occasions (dinner parties, birthdays, and especially Christmas) I think that it's worth buying a better quality wine. I'm sure you'll no doubt come back and say you've drank a £100 bottle and it was no better than a fiver bottle, and in some cases that may be right. But give the choice to someone who knows something about wine and the quality will be World's apart.
If Rotty, or whoever, wants to spend whatever they want then I'm sure it's because they think that it's worth it. It has nothing to do with consumerism, but individual tastes and budget. I've eaten the dirt cheap meat from ASDA (hell, I don't have much money so I do it quite often) and I've also eaten the expensive birds from there and I can tell you that they are a total different taste.
Our Christmas dinner this year is being made for 8, and I suspect the price will easily top a grand but my father can afford that and buys quality ingredients from local suppliers, and they unfortunately cost a bit more.
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For a start, Budweiser nor Miller would 'go' with what you'd have for Christmas dinner. You don't want something sharp, you want something with a bit more depth. A brown ale would work nicely, or perhaps something a bit malty. Fullers would work, for example.
People drink Budweiser and Miller because they are following consumerism, they are doing everything you are complaining about. I've treated people who exclusively drink those beers to other, more obscure ones, and every single time, without fail, the people have preferred what I've offered them.
I don't drink obscure, unknown beers. 99% of the beer I buy to drink at home comes from ASDA or Tesco. I only drink obscure stuff if I've been abroad, in a beer bar or am particularly flush and able to order from beersofeurope.
I'd argue that the majority of people in Glasgow have poor tastes, remember what Gordon Ramsay said about us?
I like wine, my father (who prepares our Christmas dinner) loves wine and is very knowledgeable about it. We think that it's worth buying a few lovely reds (we actually drink relatively inexpensive Cava and other fizz rather than Champagne) and are happy to pay the price for them as we think they are worth it. I'm well aware of restaurant markups, and buying wine when out for dinner is a total minefield but with a tiny bit of knowledge (about pairings) you can often pick something appropriate and something you can afford.
I'm not denying that there isn't a great deal of 'cheap' £5ish bottles of wine, and I'll often spend not more than that for a bottle for a night, or a dinner. However, on special occasions (dinner parties, birthdays, and especially Christmas) I think that it's worth buying a better quality wine. I'm sure you'll no doubt come back and say you've drank a £100 bottle and it was no better than a fiver bottle, and in some cases that may be right. But give the choice to someone who knows something about wine and the quality will be World's apart.
If Rotty, or whoever, wants to spend whatever they want then I'm sure it's because they think that it's worth it. It has nothing to do with consumerism, but individual tastes and budget. I've eaten the dirt cheap meat from ASDA (hell, I don't have much money so I do it quite often) and I've also eaten the expensive birds from there and I can tell you that they are a total different taste.
Our Christmas dinner this year is being made for 8, and I suspect the price will easily top a grand but my father can afford that and buys quality ingredients from local suppliers, and they unfortunately cost a bit more.
some valid points there, but people saying you "need" to spend £300 minimum on food alone is ridiculous, nobody "needs" to spend anything, if you can afford to do so great, ive usually worked on christmas day but shut early in my business's or only open for peak hours, that is all.
luckily all food from the restaurant is obviously free for me, as well as wine, etc. ive had some really nice £10-30 bottles of wine, i personally wouldn't go over the £30 mark, as im not a big wine drinker.
i have had customers who are wine experts come in and tell me what ones to look for, etc. in fact one couple who came in every weekend helped me a lot, they were minted though, always wearing expensive clothes, flashy convertible, flashy watches, etc. they could afford to buy all the nice stuff and good on them, but that doesn't mean if a person can make do with a £5 bottle, he should go out and buy a £20 one, just because it's christmas.
christmas is unfortunately just a lie nowadays in order to get people to part with their money. im a sikh, so obviously we don't believe in christmas, we do exchange presents and have a big family dinner/party. but we dont go out and spend £1000 on food and drink, sure buy nice stuff, but nice stuff doesnt need to cost the earth.
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I agree, there is no need to spend any certain amount. Spend what you want to, and be happy with it. I don't think, at least in terms of food, that consumerism really comes into it.
Lucky so and so! Sort me out with a free dinner one night?
Mmm, I see your point. If a person can make do with a £5 and sees no difference in taste between that and a £20 bottle then I agree, there is no reason to pay more just because of the time of year. Many people will buy certain wines because of the name as well, and that's obviously wrong. However, if you often drink £5 bottles and are happy with them but can appreciate a £20 bottle and can afford it now and then by all means go and blow the cash a little bit. Live a bit extravagantly, if you can't do it at Christmas, when can you?
Unfortunately, the 'nice' stuff that we want (namely a goose) aren't cheap, and there are some big eaters in my family! I had this discussion with AH (Glacaus) in another thread, he is happy with 200g of meat, I'd want double that on my plate and would then go for left overs. But on Christmas, I'm very greedy!
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restaurant has been leased out now mate, as of 2 months ago, on a 20+ year lease i think. still own the property but not the "business".
currently looking at a new business, something fresh, will miss the free food and drink, but new business will have similar "perks" im sure, they always do when you have your own business.
currently looking at a new business, something fresh, will miss the free food and drink, but new business will have similar "perks" im sure, they always do when you have your own business.
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I'm always looking for a job. Graduating next year with a law degree if that helps
Skidder didn't want me, so you best snatch me up quickly before someone else does!
lol, i dont have the new business yet, and im currently just doing some temp work to keep me busy until a decent opportunity comes along, have actually been looking for over a year, well before the restaurant was finally leased out.
i dont think i will need a lawyer either, i think your best looking at law apprenticeships and the like, there is a firm on bath street, which are recommended, my mate used to do the IT there.
im trying to remember our christmas day prices
think it was roughly £40-£45 a head and £15 a head for under 5's and £25 a head for under 12's.
people didn't tend to drink much either, some did other's didn't. but they gave huge tips on christmas day. had a lot of people phoning up for home delieveries, believe it or not on christmas day, thing is though, none of our drivers were willing to work, so pick up only.
i did offer a driver £5 per delivery once but no wages, and the £5 would be tacked on to the delivery charge but even then the drivers said they would rather stay at home (we usually only opened for 4-6 hours as well, would have been easy money), did think about delivering it myself but on christmas day it's usually extremely busy for the little hours you open.
I dread to think what we spend on our Christmas meal.
That sounds dirt cheap and I'm going to guess the quality won't be very good.
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This wasn't about what people "needed" to spend. The article is about what the average has gone up by.
This thread, made in a forum of people that enjoy food, is pointing out that there is no way we would be able to do it for that. Not out of necessity but out of the fact we wouldn't drink 3quid bottles of wine, a frozen ASDA turkey and any other crap. We enjoy food, nicer things.
You are starting to do my head in. What is it you actually do? Why are you even in here?
Go lick some windows elsewhere will you
This thread, made in a forum of people that enjoy food, is pointing out that there is no way we would be able to do it for that. Not out of necessity but out of the fact we wouldn't drink 3quid bottles of wine, a frozen ASDA turkey and any other crap. We enjoy food, nicer things.
You are starting to do my head in. What is it you actually do? Why are you even in here?
Go lick some windows elsewhere will you
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this guy managed to do it on £33, so your point is completely invalid.
He has a perfectly valid point.
If you want to have a "nice" meal, with quality products you will need to spend more then £33 or £74 respectively.