Are you sure? I could've sworn it had one. Maybe I'm wrong,CBA looking it up.
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7600 vs 4060?
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AM4 = only G have graphics.
AM5 = only F do not have graphics.
Yeah, that's seems like a pretty decent shout. Now just need to keep an eye out for them... (or anything better)
Ah right you are. I forgot about the G suffix. Still,i should've went with the 5600g. Cheers anyway.
Not sure if you are still checking this thread.
The 7600 and 4060 have gimped pcie interfaces. They have 128bit memory bus and are designed to run on pcie 4 using 8 lanes. 8 lanes on pcie 3 is slower (1/2 speed?). If you have a worse MB than a b550, you only have pcie 3. I got used previous gen as it would not be hobbled in some scenarios.
The 7700xt may also do this, so it may be worth looking into. It has 192bit memory bus so maybe not so bad.
The 7600 and 4060 have gimped pcie interfaces. They have 128bit memory bus and are designed to run on pcie 4 using 8 lanes. 8 lanes on pcie 3 is slower (1/2 speed?). If you have a worse MB than a b550, you only have pcie 3. I got used previous gen as it would not be hobbled in some scenarios.
The 7700xt may also do this, so it may be worth looking into. It has 192bit memory bus so maybe not so bad.
I'd pretty much decided on a 7700 XT and was just waiting for a deal to come up. However, I've just realised that all AMD 7000 series cards (and maybe 6000 series too?) won't fit in my case as they all seem to be 2.5 slot coolers.
This leaves me with only Nvidia as an option. So 4060, 4060 Ti (8 or 16GB) or pay silly money for a 4070.
It seems harder than I thought to get an older gen card at this point that uses 16 PCIe lanes, is a decent upgrade over the 1000 series and isn't silly expensive.
Pretty sure that the 7700 XT is 16 lane. They're very similar PCBs to the 7800 XT which is probably why they're all so big.
You may well be right.
Does anyone know of any 2 slot 7700 XTs? There seem to be a bunch of 2 slot 4060/4060 Ti/4070s but I can't seem to find 2 slot AMD cards. Do they really run that much hotter that they can't use 2 slot coolers?
Am I just missing them?
Am I just missing them?
I'm not aware of any compact/ITX 7700 XT cards, at least nothing like Zotac's Twin Edge models.
The 7700xt tdp is 245w
In comparison, the 4070 is 200w (4060ti is 160w)
So yes, a significant increase, however nothing is stopping manufacturers making a dual slot 7700xt considering that they previously still made 2080 super blower cards (250w tdp)
Since the 7700XT is not going to fit, I'm sorta left between a rock and a hard place.
Do I go for a 4060 or a 4060 Ti?
Both are only 8x (PCIe 4) but the Ti does look like it has a bit more performance (~20%?) but is more expensive (~32%?).
Do I try to go somewhere in between if I can find a 2-slot 6700 XT in stock? More VRAM and it's x16, but it is last gen and soon to 2 gens old.
Do I go for a 4060 or a 4060 Ti?
Both are only 8x (PCIe 4) but the Ti does look like it has a bit more performance (~20%?) but is more expensive (~32%?).
Do I try to go somewhere in between if I can find a 2-slot 6700 XT in stock? More VRAM and it's x16, but it is last gen and soon to 2 gens old.
The Ti is in a really weird place price/performance. It gives you higher performance than the 4060 which is nice, but the 8GB of VRAM is always going to be a problem, so realistically it is hard to see the point of buying one outside of maybe esports or other games that you can keep a tight reign on the VRAM and really want every last frame you can get.
If you did need higher performance than the 4060, e.g. for 1440p gaming, then the 4070 non-Super makes a lot more sense and has enough grunt it'll handle it for awhile.
The feature set of RDNA 2 is not an issue for gaming really and even though the 4060 Ti is technically newer, it performs the same (or slightly better/slightly worse) than the 3060 Ti. I'd have no concern buying one, but are they much more compact than e.g. XFX's 7700 XT SWFT 210?
From what I can see the XFX 7700 XT Swift 210 if a 2.5 slot cooler, which is an issue. I think there are some 2 slot 6700/6750 XTs, but the issue is finding them (at a reasonable price).
Yeah, as much as I dislike the 4060 Ti, I'd rather buy that than say... a £400 67x0 XT. You can get a 4060 for just over £250 now though, so given your requirements that seems hard to beat.
There's been one @ £300 for a long while, but I assume the OP doesn't want it because of the cooler design. The one I assume you're looking at seems to be okay (size wise), but it is an import and I don't know if there are any issues with that.