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7700K Delid-30c cooler!

8 Pack said:
Actually direct die not always as good as It's with good TIM
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Funny how people jump to conclusions through their own lack of knowledge. It's like they know better than those companies who spend £££££ on R&D developing this stuff.

Nice post on your visit to Intel BTW and therefore being more educated on such matters then the rest of 'em/us :D
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Funny how people jump to conclusions through their own lack of knowledge. It's like they know better than those companies who spend £££££ on R&D developing this stuff.

Nice post on your visit to Intel BTW and therefore being more educated on such matters then the rest of 'em/us :D
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It is simple physics, Direct contact (still with some TIM) has better heat transfer than Die->TIM->IHS->TIM->Heatsink.

GPU heat-sinks still have direct contact with the GPU Die. It is easier to prevent damage to the Die though since the heat sink hangs bellow the Die and is secured over a larger area in comparison to a CPU.

The reason they have the IHS is just to stop people from cracking their CPU Die. But we went for years with direct heat-sink contact on the die.
 
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8 Pack said:
I know how it works man. I was doing exactly that on old Duron and Athlon Xp with phase change cooling.

IHS is just as good as direct die with correct paste and no chance to kill the core. Shims unless they are too high for perfect contact do not gaurentee the core will not be damaged. While delid tool and IHS replaced with different TIM has zero statistical effect on RMA.
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Yeah i found the same thing, i always used a technique to make my own shims until they started soldering the IHS with core 2. When i upgraded to Ivy i thought i could go back to using that method but no matter what i did i couldnt get the same pressure on the die as the IHS achieved so i just ended up sticking that back on and have stuck with that since.
 
Nickolp1974 said:
If there is any truth in this then it looks like delidding a Kaby is a must for decent clocks!

http://ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15869
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From the article:

Checking the Forums on Anandtech, there is user RichUK who managed to get his hands on an early retail version von Intel’s Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake CPU.
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LOL that has to one of the OCUK staff members! I suspect it was this guy - rjk although he has appeared to have left OCUK.
 
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eddiew said:
So... OCUK going to be offering de-lidded chips for the crazies among us who don't trust ourselves to do it? :P
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Ofcourse the discussions we have with Intel in the lab are confidential.

Yeah we will be doing bundles with binned and delided chips in.
 
8 Pack said:
Ofcourse I can't comment on what they have in the OC lab at Intel.

But it is very interesting and they are doing a lot of internal testing. a lot more than most give them credit for.
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Who cares... we get judged on our results not how much effort we put in or how costly the development was.

If after all this "effort" and R&D spend, they are producing **** TIM, then why should anyone give Intel credit?

Results are the only thing that matter. Replacing Intel's TIM with something else and getting 20-30 degree lower temps should not make anyone feel warm and fuzzy about the "good work" they're doing.

Naturally.
 
The majority will hit 5ghz, the only criteria for binning should be voltage required to hit a stable overclock. I'd be interested to understand what qualifies in OCUK's eyes as stable.
 
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