7950GX2 Dual Screen problems solved!!!

[[Duff]Chef]

aggreeing with W3bbo, I have been ATI for years, but only recently gone to NVidia, I use the dual desktop, and there is dual SLi mobo for conroe, i shall be using it of 2 7950GX2, but when in Dual Desktop Mode, I am working, which for my line of work requires very processor heavy applications whilst not stressing the card too much, atleast nothign more than a 7900 can handle. Therefore it is not a problem to use dual screen. When playing games, just log into control panel, switch to "multi-core" and then use it that way. It isnt that hard to understand, and this little feature is what for me makes the card so functional.

 

[w3bbo]

There's been a lot of reference to "fanboys" on this thread, which posts in particular are you referring to? Not my own I do sincerely hope!

My frustrations have been provoked entirely by the steadfast reluctance of two major companies to clarify even the simplest of questions, for instance:

"Does the P5N32 SE support Quad SLI?

I will say it wasn't directed at you I aint an Nvidia or ATI fan, just a fan of whats the fastest at the time - same thing with AMD/intel. Thats why I have a conroe and GX2 in my rig...I would happily swap them out for an ATI/AMD offering if they were faster but at this moment in time they are not, no doubt in the future they will be but when that day comes I won't attempt to talk them down out of misguided brand loyalty - I'll just jump ship.

 

[FreeStream]

Seems the ATI fanboys have a chip on there shoulder coz they lost the dx9 performance war and will look for any excuse to have a dig at the best card out there which on this occassion happens to be an Nvidia one

@ wickedy

Usefull to know and thanks for sharing

Hardly tbh, nvidia had to slap two cards together to beat ATi. Don't say its one card, as when two of them are together its quad SLi, I wonder why?

2ndly. I use two monitors, I have a top end card, I dont need to disable the reason for it being a top end card. I would be so so so hacked off if I had to do that.

ATi, in my mind, are the better option atm, Esp the X1900XT.

As for fanboy, im a performance fanboy. I get whats best for the best price.

 

[Naffa]

As for fanboy, yes you are. Obviously your red-specs don't allow you to see some Nvidia cards. Ever heard of the 7900GTX?

On par/beats the X1900XT(X) and it's a single card... Hardly tbh? I think so tbh.

 

[FreeStream]

As for fanboy, yes you are. Obviously your red-specs don't allow you to see some Nvidia cards. Ever heard of the 7900GTX?

On par/beats the X1900XT(X) and it's a single card... Hardly tbh? I think so tbh.

I saw that, had a look at the benchies, spent about 4 days deciding.

Went with a X1900XT-X His for the voltage control for lower 2D voltages (down from 5A to core to under 2A thats about 30-40W saved), better AA and AF handling). I prefer the drivers, the 6800U I had was awful, and the replacement of that got sold within 2 weeks for a X1900XT. The 7900 failure rate.

Yes, performance is the same, price is the same, but, in my mind, currently, I'd rather spend my money on a X1900XT. Plus the fact, at stock, in 3D Mark 2005, I can have 4xAA and 8xAF and still get the same score as a 7900GTX with none

 

[Naffa]

Why? Because performance is same, but the 7900 draws less power, runs quieter and cooler?

I'm not a fanboy, in fact I'll be buying an X1900XT myself in a few weeks... But c'mon...

 

[FreeStream]

Why? Because performance is same, but the 7900 draws less power, runs quieter and cooler?

I'm not a fanboy, in fact I'll be buying an X1900XT myself in a few weeks... But c'mon...

Draws less power? At idle with my clocks and voltages its the same
Quieter? Same, His IceQ Cooler
Cooler? Same, never goes above 60C with fans at non-audiable speeds, shove it to 100%, doesn't pass 50C.

Yes, the normal X1900s arn't quite as good. But a His one is just the best.

 

[Naffa]

Oh right so the entire range is judged by the card that YOU have... Sorry I forget the sheer signifigance of some of the members on here.

I also realised this...

Hardly tbh, nvidia had to slap two cards together to beat ATi.

Yes, performance is the same, price is the same

I smell a rat.

 

[FreeStream]

Its the best single card (in my mind) that you can buy at the moment. Its the best X1900 and you can't argue against that.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/390/11/

Theres power usage, 2D (which it spends 90% of the time at) is 10-20W lower at normal, so a good 30-40W more at the lowest clocks you can set. GX2 is only about 20W less at 3D than a X1900.

3D, which it spend a few hours a day, less than 20 hours a week at is 50W or so more, that doesn't bother me, and it doesn't bother the most of the people buying them.

But what does matter, is IQ and performance with high AA and AF and resolution, which on the whole from my searching means the X1900 is a better buy.

People can make there own minds up, but my opinion is that ati is better this round.

Plus the fact nvidia "flagship" card can't even run SLi with dual monitors is a LOL moment for me, so either you loose the performance or dual monitors.

Well theres my opinion...

 

[Naffa]

What gives me a LOL is that you're trying to proove a point to me that I already agree with. I always recommend the HIS X1900XT IceQ3 to people at the moment, because as you say, it's the best you can get for your money. But what I object to is how people constantly object to a card because of it's brand more than anything. I honestly can't be bothered to go on about this anymore... I know how annoying it is when people do that so you can say your thang then shall we call it a day?

I agree with you that the HIS X1900XT is the best buy at the moment, but I just don't like it when it's pimped by brand fanboys rather than the card's die hard performance.

 

[FreeStream]

What gives me a LOL is that you're trying to proove a point to me that I already agree with. I always recommend the HIS X1900XT IceQ3 to people at the moment, because as you say, it's the best you can get for your money. But what I object to is how people constantly object to a card because of it's brand more than anything. I honestly can't be bothered to go on about this anymore... I know how annoying it is when people do that so you can say your thang then shall we call it a day?

I agree with you that the HIS X1900XT is the best buy at the moment, but I just don't like it when it's pimped by brand fanboys rather than the card's die hard performance.

I know you do

Infact before even this started i recommened a 7600GS

I dont object to the GX2, but when people say its the best card you can get and nvidia won the DX9 is BS, cos they had to slap two cards together blah blah blah x10000 billion to the power of 9.

Mr Wabbos comment started it all off :

"Seems the ATI fanboys have a chip on there shoulder coz they lost the dx9 performance war and will look for any excuse to have a dig at the best card out there which on this occassion happens to be an Nvidia one".

Which, TBH is BS as we both agree

Now, its settled.

His X1900 is the best buy at this very very moment

/me strokes IceQ, might torture it tomorrow with 1.6V muhahahahahahaha

 

[Naffa]

The only thing wrong with that is for people running every kind of single monitor... The 7950GX2 is, without doubt, the fastest single card solution on the market.

 

[fornowagain]

I don't understand, the GX2 runs dual monitors just fine, one on each gpu. If I were to play a game it would be on a single monitor same as my XTX? The only difference is turning on SLi for the boost, crossfire is the same IIRC. Or with the ATI, can you play on two monitors at once, who does that, can you see the crosshairs? What about the XTX running two monitors, it has to split the load with one gpu/memory, the GX2 proberbly runs 2D with two monitors better as it has gpu/memory for each screen. Apart from clicking on a multi-GPU box for SLi, I suppose the main disadvantage is not having a second 2D screen visible during game play, but that's not that big a deal for me. I'd rather have the extra performance.

 

[w3bbo]

I dont object to the GX2, but when people say its the best card you can get and nvidia won the DX9 is BS, cos they had to slap two cards together blah blah blah x10000 billion to the power of 9.

If Nvidia didn't win the DX9 performance battle and what I say is BS then why does every review show that the GX2 is the fastest single pci-x slot solution out right now? Even when ATI had the chance to snatch that 'title' away, they failed with the x1950xtx. Sorry m8 but your plain incorrect, the GX2 is the fastest card out there at this moment in time...period.

My point was that having SLI running on two monitors is pointless, SLI in game isn't. So having a fruitless dig at a card for not being able to do something it wasn't designed for nor required for is silly imo. I certainly wouldn't have bought my Gx2 for simply running two monitors, thats not what the card was designed for. As for two cards slapped into one, well your sort of right and sort of wrong. Its actually two PCB's made into one card, neither can operate independantly but both can work either in multi gpu(SLI) or multi monitor. Not at the both time and that is where ATI take the advantage...but then would you really buy a ATI X1900XTX for the sole purpose of running two monitors? Crying that Nvidia 'cheated' is ridiculous, they have done something that ATI couldn't/wouldn't/havn't, its called innovation and all the moaning and forum flaming in the world aint gonna change the fact that the GX2 is a faster card be 1,2 or 1000 pcb's slapped together, its still runs off a single slot, the same slot used by any other PCIx device.

I do however agree that the x1900 is the 'best bang per buck' and I would recommend someone budgeting that they go for that card but if we're talking about the best card you can get (which we wern't btw) then the GX2 fills that slot, denying that fact is blind fanboyism(?) lol.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Yes Nvidia did win the DX9 war, but they had to slap 2x cards together to do it, bit of a kick in the nads dont you think, when you have to slap 2x of your cards together to beat your rivals single one.

 

[w3bbo]

Yeah I agree it was sneeky But then ATI would have done it if they knew how Both are constantly desparate to have 'the fastest' and will do almost anything to get the performance crown off one another, the good side is that GPU's get faster and faster...the bad side is the price drops and 1 month you have the best...next month you don't so please indulge me while I have my months (or 3 months) worth of e-willy waving, coz when DX10 cards are here my GX2 won't be worth squat

 

[FreeStream]

I don't understand, the GX2 runs dual monitors just fine, one on each gpu. If I were to play a game it would be on a single monitor same as my XTX? The only difference is turning on SLi for the boost, crossfire is the same IIRC. Or with the ATI, can you play on two monitors at once, who does that, can you see the crosshairs? What about the XTX running two monitors, it has to split the load with one gpu/memory, the GX2 proberbly runs 2D with two monitors better as it has gpu/memory for each screen. Apart from clicking on a multi-GPU box for SLi, I suppose the main disadvantage is not having a second 2D screen visible during game play, but that's not that big a deal for me. I'd rather have the extra performance.

I don't do that, I have MSN/MBM5/clocks etc on the smaller screen and game on the main screen. As far as I understand you cannot do that with a GX2, which is abit silly tbh. For me anyway

 

[w3bbo]

Yeah you can do that with the GX2, its just that it will run without SLI at 7900GT speeds(more than enough for desktop applications imo). I guess it is usefull to have those applications running on a separate screen but tbh its nothing that ALT+Enter can't do and I personally check out what temps/volts I have running through my card/cpu after I have clocked it and tested it, I see little need for constantly monitering them. MSN on a separate screen would be nice I agree, though whether I would sacrifice having the quickest card available so I could do that is debatable I guess.