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7970 GHz edition v's 680 Performance Comparison

With the new reference 7970 ghz edition running at 1100mhz, it will reclaim the fastest stock single GPU crown again. Hopefully, this will push Nvidia to GK110 sooner.
 
Keep dreaming :p

It's not far fetched at all if you do the percentile maths.

I think the sensible thing to do is wait for the release of actual card and the reviews for them from well-known reviewers. As setting expectation too high base on rumours alone could lead to disappointment, just like the 6950 and 6970 back then.

I think you're getting me mixed up with childish fan boys that behave emotively over graphics card performance........ :p :D

Besides, having discussions full of ifs and buts and speculation is what these forums is all about. It would be a very dull place otherwise.

Edit, just been thinking that these will be what they use for the dual GPU card.
 
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1100MHz @ 1.020V seems a bit too good to be true. Maybe they are 7970's with less/no directcompute capabilities or something odd like that so it's purely for gaming and overclocking.

Either way they did an amazing job if these rumours are true.
 
1100MHz @ 1.020V seems a bit too good to be true. Maybe they are 7970's with less/no directcompute capabilities or something odd like that so it's purely for gaming and overclocking.

Either way they did an amazing job if these rumours are true.

Don't think they can reduce direct compute ability without a full redesign/new architecture.
 
I don't think that's context it was implied andy.

He has a problem with the fact that without manually overclocking the 6's, he could buy one that isn't as 'fast' as the next guys stock 6, in regards to gregsters comments about users not overclocking.

It's in a similar fashion to SLI users who have one gpu faster than the other@stock speeds.

Gregsters point is valid, however, it seems but a distant memory to the cries along the lines of:

But the 580's a clocking monster, you pay extra, at stock speeds it's bit faster than a 6970, but when you overclock both of them, there is a bigger difference between them.

Now that's gone clean out the window and overclockings a thing of the past to half(figuratively speaking) of all the high end gpu users.;)





Problem being that the 79 series was on a new process, 6 months later, yields are better, it always works that way.



I think both have set their stalls out and that's what's going to be happening from now on, the desktop market is shrinking = less customer base = higher pricing for not much return.

Add in the 'gimping' of driver performance(not stability)imho from both teams that 'encourages' us to upgrade.

Regarding the out of the box comment, I do not understand what you mean. Surely that is relevant to every graphics card... Some clock well some clock worse.

All 680's will run at the specified speed.
 
At 1100mhz it will, the benches on page 1 first post we're at 1ghz and it was close.

It depends if the benchies are accurate though dave, they could be off the mark is what I'm meaning.

Regarding the out of the box comment, I do not understand what you mean. Surely that is relevant to every graphics card... Some clock well some clock worse.

If you read the context of my comment in relation to what gregster was talking about regarding whether anyone wants to overclock their high end gpu or not, you would have noticed it was to do with the 'stock' clocks, not 'overclocked' clocks.

It was more of a tongue in cheek statement regarding users that used to say:
'X gpu overclocks better than Z gpu', because it suited their argument at the time.

But now it suits, for said same people to turn full circle and now imply:

'you don't need to/nobody overclocks now'

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, but most(if they take whatever shade of glasses they wear off;)) will know exactly what I'm talking about(some will even have a wry smile upon reading this:)).

All 680's will run at the specified speed.

And some will run faster than others without touching any clock settings, ie, they boost higher(some considerably) out the box, which was in reply as to what I think kitch9 was implying, but again that goes down to the silicon lottery.
 
They don't have to be cherry picked chips to go in the 1GHz cards.

From what I've read basically any HD 7970 will do 1GHz and most, if not all, a fair bit more than that.

They can just take the same cards they're selling now and use a different BIOS which gives a 1GHz stock speed instead of 925MHz.

Exactly this, if anyone thinks it's cherry picked cards, then well done Amd, mission accomplished, it worked!

It's probably an excuse to bump the prices up even further, Amd and Nvidia must be sitting back ******* themselves laughing at everyone suckered into paying the prices this time round!

I never said cherry picked anywhere. i was right about these fake ghz cards being benched :D (From the leak today) on some sites - all BS and the other point i tried to make was that all partners have yet to release their highest performance cards, they were waiting for these higher binned cards.
 
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There's no point putting me in the quote, I didn't reply to your post, I replied to surveyor talking about simply swapping the bios on stock 7970's.

Although you never mentioned cherry picked, you are at odds with yourself stating that AIB's were 'holding back their good chips' to now state 'they were waiting for the higher binned cards'.:p

It wasn't a hard thing to fake the Ghz cards at all, as every 7970 can become a Ghz edition without breaking a bead of sweat anyway.
 
I can't believe AMD would release a new high end card that at least according to their own tests doesn't beat a 680, it's pointless. The 7970 already competes equally with the 680 on price/performance so why bother releasing a card that doesn't retake the single GPU crown?

+1

AMD should reduce the price and beat N on the perf/price front.

It's pity to show people you are still losing 8/10 on the marketing material.
 
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AMD should reduce the price and beat N on the perf/price front.

It's pity to show people you are still losing 8/10 on the marketing material.
Either way, the perf/price for this gen cards is quite poor if you consider the progression from last gen vs th amount of price increase this gen. GTX670/GTX680 and 7950/7970 are all overpriced by at least a good £50-£100 for what they are.
 
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If it does come out at 1100mhz core it will take the single gpu crown back. Reviews show the lightning 7970 @1070mhz being neck and neck with the asus directcu 680, which is faster than a reference 680.
 
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There's no point putting me in the quote, I didn't reply to your post, I replied to surveyor talking about simply swapping the bios on stock 7970's.

Although you never mentioned cherry picked, you are at odds with yourself stating that AIB's were 'holding back their good chips' to now state 'they were waiting for the higher binned cards'.:p

It wasn't a hard thing to fake the Ghz cards at all, as every 7970 can become a Ghz edition without breaking a bead of sweat anyway.

I don`t see any difference and neither am i claiming to be a prophet, it was common sense from a bit of research :D

The info on binning of cards has been out there for months :confused:
 
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