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With the new reference 7970 ghz edition running at 1100mhz, it will reclaim the fastest stock single GPU crown again. Hopefully, this will push Nvidia to GK110 sooner.
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I think the sensible thing to do is wait for the release of actual card and the reviews for them from well-known reviewers. As setting expectation too high base on rumours alone could lead to disappointment, just like the 6950 and 6970 back then.
1100MHz @ 1.020V seems a bit too good to be true. Maybe they are 7970's with less/no directcompute capabilities or something odd like that so it's purely for gaming and overclocking.
Either way they did an amazing job if these rumours are true.
Doubt it dave as it won't be an out and out win.
I don't think that's context it was implied andy.
He has a problem with the fact that without manually overclocking the 6's, he could buy one that isn't as 'fast' as the next guys stock 6, in regards to gregsters comments about users not overclocking.
It's in a similar fashion to SLI users who have one gpu faster than the other@stock speeds.
Gregsters point is valid, however, it seems but a distant memory to the cries along the lines of:
But the 580's a clocking monster, you pay extra, at stock speeds it's bit faster than a 6970, but when you overclock both of them, there is a bigger difference between them.
Now that's gone clean out the window and overclockings a thing of the past to half(figuratively speaking) of all the high end gpu users.
Problem being that the 79 series was on a new process, 6 months later, yields are better, it always works that way.
I think both have set their stalls out and that's what's going to be happening from now on, the desktop market is shrinking = less customer base = higher pricing for not much return.
Add in the 'gimping' of driver performance(not stability)imho from both teams that 'encourages' us to upgrade.
At 1100mhz it will, the benches on page 1 first post we're at 1ghz and it was close.
Regarding the out of the box comment, I do not understand what you mean. Surely that is relevant to every graphics card... Some clock well some clock worse.
All 680's will run at the specified speed.
They don't have to be cherry picked chips to go in the 1GHz cards.
From what I've read basically any HD 7970 will do 1GHz and most, if not all, a fair bit more than that.
They can just take the same cards they're selling now and use a different BIOS which gives a 1GHz stock speed instead of 925MHz.
Exactly this, if anyone thinks it's cherry picked cards, then well done Amd, mission accomplished, it worked!
It's probably an excuse to bump the prices up even further, Amd and Nvidia must be sitting back ******* themselves laughing at everyone suckered into paying the prices this time round!
I almost had a geek-gasm with all that good info![]()
I can't believe AMD would release a new high end card that at least according to their own tests doesn't beat a 680, it's pointless. The 7970 already competes equally with the 680 on price/performance so why bother releasing a card that doesn't retake the single GPU crown?
Either way, the perf/price for this gen cards is quite poor if you consider the progression from last gen vs th amount of price increase this gen. GTX670/GTX680 and 7950/7970 are all overpriced by at least a good £50-£100 for what they are.+1
AMD should reduce the price and beat N on the perf/price front.
It's pity to show people you are still losing 8/10 on the marketing material.
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There's no point putting me in the quote, I didn't reply to your post, I replied to surveyor talking about simply swapping the bios on stock 7970's.
Although you never mentioned cherry picked, you are at odds with yourself stating that AIB's were 'holding back their good chips' to now state 'they were waiting for the higher binned cards'.
It wasn't a hard thing to fake the Ghz cards at all, as every 7970 can become a Ghz edition without breaking a bead of sweat anyway.