80" 720p Vs 1080p Screen - Gaming Discussion For Upcoming Review!!!
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The black levels make all the difference.
Up until recently I had a 720P Samsung LE32 (forgot model it was the one MS originally recommened for Xbox360), its blacks were dark grey at best.
I recently upgraded to a Samsung 1080P LCD with 25:000 contrast ratio and the black levels are probably the biggest most noticeable improvement, absolutely jet black blacks.
Up until recently I had a 720P Samsung LE32 (forgot model it was the one MS originally recommened for Xbox360), its blacks were dark grey at best.
I recently upgraded to a Samsung 1080P LCD with 25:000 contrast ratio and the black levels are probably the biggest most noticeable improvement, absolutely jet black blacks.
When 50" isnt enough the only thing to consider is a Projector, you just cant beat it for impact.
Id like to demonstrate a 21" TFT comparison. The TFT is actually more forward in this picture but it would take approx 4x of these monitors in corner-corner to produce the same size image and in total would require12x monitors on a wall to give the same size of image.
(Ignore the ceiling spotlight shining right on the screen)
Lights off...
Colour depth is excellent with almost 3d effect
The AE2000E is indeed a stonking piece of hardware and ive no doubts that it will receive great reviews.
LCD projectors have now gained and i believe in this model surpassed many DLP projectors...
Id like to demonstrate a 21" TFT comparison. The TFT is actually more forward in this picture but it would take approx 4x of these monitors in corner-corner to produce the same size image and in total would require12x monitors on a wall to give the same size of image.
(Ignore the ceiling spotlight shining right on the screen)
Lights off...
Colour depth is excellent with almost 3d effect
The AE2000E is indeed a stonking piece of hardware and ive no doubts that it will receive great reviews.
LCD projectors have now gained and i believe in this model surpassed many DLP projectors...
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Tried changing "B-gain/white balance?"
The PS3 is optimised to its best settings for colour and blacklevel.
HDMI options for the "Deep Colour" and the new supported 1.3 contrast/super whites is enabled. Its doubtfull though that a game uses these modes. The differences on the car must just come down to the abilities of each machine, colour processing and the ability of the AE2000 model to handle shades/colour transitions more accurately.
Both Projectors were on the "Normal" preset all settings at default. This isnt the best setting nor is it fine tuned but was used on both machines for proper/fair out of the box comparisons.
Heres another simple test photo taken only inches away from the screen. See the lack of pixel structure even at this distance. Their is zero artifacts common with older LCD projectors "chicken wire/screen door effect" The benifits of a sharper image with better colour and clearer text can once again be seen in the AE2000E.
The AX100 720p (1080p downscaled)
Now AE2000E 1080p
Sharper,better colour and stronger black level.
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Thanks guys...
The Panasonic uses a 2x zoom which i think is the widest for the home market. From that distance you will get 100" screen. Even small rooms can be accomodated with a 50" screen from only 5ft distance.
(google: projector calculator "AE2000U")
The AE2000E is a motorized model allowing you to zoom and adjust the focus from the remote too. Amazing as many even more expensive models are not
The Panasonic uses a 2x zoom which i think is the widest for the home market. From that distance you will get 100" screen. Even small rooms can be accomodated with a 50" screen from only 5ft distance.
(google: projector calculator "AE2000U")
The AE2000E is a motorized model allowing you to zoom and adjust the focus from the remote too. Amazing as many even more expensive models are not
The zoom allows you to adjust your position of placement to required screen size.
Having a projector situated further back would give a larger throw because of the distance. The zoom then allows you adjust the screen larger/or smaller.
Its recommended to go as large as 125" with this model. High gain screens can increase the brightness for larger projected areas.
Having a projector situated further back would give a larger throw because of the distance. The zoom then allows you adjust the screen larger/or smaller.
Its recommended to go as large as 125" with this model. High gain screens can increase the brightness for larger projected areas.
Yeah you should be setting the PJs up correctly before you do any comparisons.
I'm currently using a Sanyo Z4 onto a 102" motorised screen in my lounge, and got to agree that nothing beats it for the cinematic impact........especially not for the cost (the Z4 set me back about £400 and £140 for the screen).
However, it's not ideal for everyone as you do need the ability to blackout your room, so not ideal for everyday TV viewing.
Very easy to set up using AVIA disc, so if you haven't then I'd suggest getting that ASAP, as it makes a huge difference.
However, it's not ideal for everyone as you do need the ability to blackout your room, so not ideal for everyday TV viewing.
Very easy to set up using AVIA disc, so if you haven't then I'd suggest getting that ASAP, as it makes a huge difference.
Panasonics presets are pretty good, the whole point of having both set to "Normal" is because the contrast/brightness/colour temp/ etc are identical and as such the comparison clearly shows the hardware spec abilities of each machine with the same source in the same enviroment. Your or my taste in presets would differ, what a disc tells you is "perfect" is fine in the conditions you have at the time of doing the test, if the room light or room conditions change then your "perfect" preset is no use. Its also pointless me doing for photos as the camera will not show the images exactly as they are regarding colour temp/saturation...
As for the AE2000 it has "Colour 1" mode for accurate colours as a preset that passes all the tests on the latest discs and is "Hollywood Tuned" out of the box. Additionally you can have 16 of your own presets for various lighting and different video devices and thats on top of the 9 or so presets panasonic give you.
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No it doesn't. Just because you leave each OOTB settings, doesn't mean they'll ideal setup. Why do you think I said the above one was too blue? Therefore it ISN'T setup right, it's like comparing my LCD OOTB, it looks horrid. Dynamic contrast, 75 sharpness, too high colour, DNIE, active colour, movie plus, black adjust are all on.
Calibrate each screen as best as you can THEN do comparisons.
I dont need to calibrate either of them, i already have my presets done. The point of the thread is not to show one model at its very best against the other according to my desired taste/presets.
Just like anyone here, depending on the game or movie you sometimes tweak something anyways because some material is darker than others. This includes games.
I think the screenshots look fine as they are if a little oversaturated. "Dynamic" mode for instance is even stronger but would cut the eyes out of you in a darkened room with 16000:1 contrast however its for when you have the lights on its then viewable.
Just like anyone here, depending on the game or movie you sometimes tweak something anyways because some material is darker than others. This includes games.
I think the screenshots look fine as they are if a little oversaturated. "Dynamic" mode for instance is even stronger but would cut the eyes out of you in a darkened room with 16000:1 contrast however its for when you have the lights on its then viewable.
Yes you do. You clearly have no idea on how to set them up, once setup there is no need to change settings per movie / per game. If you've set them up correctly why does the first one look blue? Oh because you've left it at default settings..
Buy avia, do contrast/brightness/sharpness/tint adjustments and post some screenshots.