9/11

scorza · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:41

RIP.

Will never forget that terrible day. At first we thought it was a bit funny, then someone said their brother worked there so felt bad for them, then we realised how serious it was when the first tower collapsed. Felt physically sick when I left the office that day

K1LLSW1TCH · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:45

I think everyone remembers where they were and what they were doing when the news came through about that first plane crashing into the North Tower. RIP to all victims and my thoughts are with the families who will forever remain affected by this atrocity.

cm1179 · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:46

Tefal said:
7/7 didn't kill nearly 3 thousand people.

i know it didn't. are you telling me that it's down to the scale of the casualties then?

Robbo · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:52

cm1179 said:
i know it didn't. are you telling me that it's down to the scale of the casualties then?

And the manner of the attack, plane hijacking and destroying two of the most famous buildings in the world?

RedDanDoc · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:53

simulatorman said:
RIP to all those that died in the attacks and God Bless America.

This

KNiVES · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:55

cm1179 said:
i don't understand but i do feel for all the victims of 9/11 but by still remembering this globally (the immediately effected victims will obviously remember it everyday and pay homage on the anniversary) then i believe it stands the risk of becoming a case of 'when do you stop'? as other posters have said, the USA needs to move on. Does 7/7 get the same response worldwide? do other disaster events, man made or natural get this kind of treatment 9 years on? it was tragic, it will live with the families of those immediately effected forever but i really do think it is time to move on and by that, i mean such things as a 9/11 topic on an internet messageboard may not really still have a need 9 years on. i find the footage of 9/11 fascinating and watched the documentary on channel 4 this evening but then i remembered it was 9 years ago, are we going to have one next year too?
never forget, but please, things move on

9/11 changed the entire world profoundly. The erosion of civil liberties across the entire global spectrum is well documented, not to mention two wars that have been committed under incredibly dubious circumstances. That's just the tip of the iceberg with regard to the impact of the events on that day.

The USA PATRIOT Act's reverberations are felt to this day. We cannot escape the icy grasp of 9/11 and likely never will.

cm1179 · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:57

Robboftw said:
And the manner of the attack, plane hijacking and destroying two of the most famous buildings in the world?

i would be quite confident in stating that they weren't two of the most famous buildings in the world and that 7 out of 10 UK residents asked if they knew what they were (before 9/11) would have not known about them.
i'm not saying i'm against remembering 9/11, i just feel that things need to move on and don't understand why 9/11 seems to get more attention than other tragedies

Mr_White · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:58

Robbo · 11 Sep 2010 at 23:59

cm1179 said:
i would be quite confident in stating that they weren't two of the most famous buildings in the world and that 7 out of 10 UK residents asked if they knew what they were (before 9/11) would have not known about them.
i'm not saying i'm against remembering 9/11, i just feel that things need to move on and don't understand why 9/11 seems to get more attention than other tragedies

Alright, two of the largest buildings in the world then.

Put it how you want, and yes people need to move on, but as stated, the repercussions of the attacks are still having an effect to this day.

Surely it isn't hard to understand.

SteveOBHave · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:01

I'm sorry it happened but I more sad that people are now dying (from all around the world) in a war in foreign lands again. We'll never learn.

RIP - I wish people didn't have to die needlessly.

cm1179 · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:04

yes, the repercussions of the attack are still having an effect to this day. just type ''uk soldier killed in afghanistan'' into google

eddiemcgarrigle · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:06

This is an especially poignant day for me as I was at work when it happened. Sitting agog watching fellow firefighters being buried in the rubble of the twin towers. My hatred for extremist Islam is still as strong to this day.

Tefal · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:08

cm1179 said:
i know it didn't. are you telling me that it's down to the scale of the casualties then?

Pretty much, and the fact it was far more of a spectacle.

Same reason we don't have a big anniversary for the Falklands every year but we do for ww2.

Narj · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:08

11/9

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cm1179 · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:10

Tefal said:
Pretty much, and the fact it was far more of a spectacle.

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with all due respect, that is ridiculous

Castiel · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:10

As far as attrocities are concerned the World Trade Centre attack wasn't really significant. However, the effect it had on the psyche of the only superpower was.

No doubt the event changed the way in which the US percieves the world, and in fact how it reacts to the world. US politics, both internally and it's foreign policy took a huge lurch to the right. With the implimentation of the Patriot Act, the institution of Homeland Security and the onset of the Iraq and Afghan Wars the US has taken a fighteningly authoritarian stance, both domestically and abroad.

Now while the loss of so many lives in a Terrorist attack is tragic, the aftermath which still continues today is the real concern.

I do feel that after the 10 year anniversary next year some effort should be made to put it behind us, otherwise we are in real danger of the wounds never healing, either for the US or the world.

Narj · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:14

I must admit that I sometimes cynically wonder: if the US actually gave a stuff about terrorism, why didn't they investigate and deal with all the funding the IRA were getting from their own turf back in the day? Must be a recent development in giving a ****

Sorry, beer talking again.

regulus · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:16

KNiVES said:
9/11 changed the entire world profoundly. The erosion of civil liberties across the entire global spectrum is well documented, not to mention two wars that have been committed under incredibly dubious circumstances. That's just the tip of the iceberg with regard to the impact of the events on that day.

The USA PATRIOT Act's reverberations are felt to this day. We cannot escape the icy grasp of 9/11 and likely never will.

Amen to that.

Pestilence · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:23

PianoBasher said:
I must admit that I sometimes cynically wonder: if the US actually gave a stuff about terrorism, why didn't they investigate and deal with all the funding the IRA were getting from their own turf back in the day? Must be a recent development in giving a ****

Sorry, beer talking again.

No need to apologise...you're perfectly correct.

"We do NOT negotiate with terrorists!

....but we'll fund them."

cm1179 · 12 Sep 2010 at 00:23

PianoBasher said:
I must admit that I sometimes cynically wonder: if the US actually gave a stuff about terrorism, why didn't they investigate and deal with all the funding the IRA were getting from their own turf back in the day? Must be a recent development in giving a ****

Sorry, beer talking again.

i often wonder if the USA were so hell bent on getting rid of hussain because he was a dictator (with WOMD), why they didn't show an interest in robert mugabe, oh wait, yes i do, because he wasn't sat on oil

anyway, apologies, this is going way off topic