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960 good or bad ?

colly said:
I don't see many posts about the 960 is it just priced wrong or is it a bad card ?
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It's labelled wrong AND priced wrong.

That card should had been labelled as 950TI at sold £120-£140 as successor to the 7850 and GTX650Ti Boost 2GB. If it did, nobody would have any beef with it.

It is hardly faster than the card in the same price bracket cards two gens ago (660/7870). Performance increase wise for Nvidia card at that price bracket gone from the 660 to 670...that's about it; and it's been nearly 2 and half years since the launch of the 660!
 
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Agree with nearly all the above.
The problem with the 960 is as has been pointed out it is a 660 style replacement and the 600 series had a 660 and a 660Ti. The 960 slots in where the out going 660 was in the hierarchy, the problem being there was only a 760 not a 760 Ti to go with it. The rumour is that there is a 960Ti coming which will make the currant 960 look more in line with the rest of the range.
I do agree that it is too expensive though by about £25.
 
The thing is they will still sell loads even at price just because it has the NVIDIA name and "new" and not everyone is so aware of the poor value for money even though it's the cheapest in the 900 series.

Seems a familiar trait for NVIDIA, release a GPU with low specs for the price, sell silly amounts anyway. Then release a card with real decent specs as soon as AMD respond (which unfortunately they have been dead slow at) then sell even more lol.
 
Darujhistan said:
No, it's rubbish, especially going forward.
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To be honest that is a bit harsh, it's not the best card out there of course but it does fit in the hierarchy in the right place.

In fact looking at the prices here, the cheapest 960 is £159, that will get you a £150 280 non X 3GB which is ever so slightly slower or a £150 285 2GB which seems trade blows with the 960. To comfortably beat it you need to go to £176 for a 3GB 280x.
Of course all this is moot when you can get a 290 non x for £200 at the moment which as has been said earlier in the thread the card to go for at the moment. (Untill the 960Ti gets here anyway.;))
 
bru said:
To be honest that is a bit harsh, it's not the best card out there of course but it does fit in the hierarchy in the right place.

In fact looking at the prices here, the cheapest 960 is £159, that will get you a £150 280 non X 3GB which is ever so slightly slower or a £150 285 2GB which seems trade blows with the 960. To comfortably beat it you need to go to £176 for a 3GB 280x.
Of course all this is moot when you can get a 290 non x for £200 at the moment which as has been said earlier in the thread the card to go for at the moment. (Untill the 960Ti gets here anyway.;))
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A bit harsh perhaps. That's the cheapest card you quote, and you can demolish it with a top quality 290 @ 199.

The 960 in this guise is just another insipid low end of the mid range card, which like the 280 is a ripoff with only 2 GB of VRAM.
 
Darujhistan said:
A bit harsh perhaps. That's the cheapest card you quote, and you can demolish it with a top quality 290 @ 199.

The 960 in this guise is just another insipid low end of the mid range card, which like the 280 is a ripoff with only 2 GB of VRAM.
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Erm.... that is the cheapest of each card on sale here. How is that not a fair comparison.

Yes the 290 is a better buy if you can afford the extra cash, as I and many others have said.

"Like the 280 is a ripoff with only 2GB ram", I can only assume you mean the 285, which like the 960 got a very lukewarm reception when it was launched as well.
 
bru said:
Erm.... that is the cheapest of each card on sale here. How is that not a fair comparison.

Yes the 290 is a better buy if you can afford the extra cash, as I and many others have said.

"Like the 280 is a ripoff with only 2GB ram", I can only assume you mean the 285, which like the 960 got a very lukewarm reception when it was launched as well.
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It didn't say it wasn't fair. It hints that more expensive 960s are even worse value. The PCS although the cheapest is top notch, it's not a low-end 290.

Yes 285.
 
Yeah to be fair its not a bad card, it should have been released a while back. Knowing what we know now with regards to ram usage on upcoming games it just seems a bit out of place. 33 percent overclock is still in impressive though, if it just had another gig of vram it would have been sweet.
 
bru said:
To be honest that is a bit harsh, it's not the best card out there of course but it does fit in the hierarchy in the right place.

In fact looking at the prices here, the cheapest 960 is £159, that will get you a £150 280 non X 3GB which is ever so slightly slower or a £150 285 2GB which seems trade blows with the 960. To comfortably beat it you need to go to £176 for a 3GB 280x.
Of course all this is moot when you can get a 290 non x for £200 at the moment which as has been said earlier in the thread the card to go for at the moment. (Untill the 960Ti gets here anyway.;))
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I am afraid have to disagree about the "fit in the hierarchy in the right place" comment.

Pricing and performance hierarchy wise, the 970 and 980 is actually quite similar to the 570 and 580 back in the days. Now the issue what have here we is that comparing to the 560 at the sub £150 price bracket and the 560Ti at the £170-£200 ish price bracket back then, Nvidia is sell the 960- a non-Ti card at Ti's price bracket. That is what the biggest problem is with the 960.

Nvidia has either launched the right card at the wrong price bracket, or the wrong card at the right price bracket...cause at the current price, it really should have been a 960Ti not a 960.
 
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