I imagine it would be 90 days like all other B-grade stuff. It's why the price will be reduced. If you want 3-year warranty, buy full price one.
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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating
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That's the card I am gonna buy to replace my MSI 970
That's the card I am gonna buy to replace my MSI 970
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IT WAS A MISTAKE!!! Jeez why does everyone have such a hard time getting their head around this concept. They made a mistake with the marketing details, nothing more complicated or sinister than that.
The notion that this was a deliberate coverup is lunacy. I suppose these are the same people who believe we never landed on the moon and that the CIA killed JFK
Mistake, yea OK and have you seen that flag moving on the moon landing. Its all liiiies I tell you...
I'm waiting patiently for my 980 to arrive (posted my 970's yesterday to clockers) but I do hope I can get a good deal on another 980 in a few weeks when I can justify the money for a second 980 (hint hint) . I've looked about and yes Gibbo is right regarding returns to other etailers. Fantastic work all round and although I now regard nvidia as extremely evil regarding this memgate I still urge towards their tech (especially the drivers). Hope everyone has a good weekend. rip my 970's.
This.
Thanks for letting me know about that!
Do you know what the consensus is on the OCUK reference card or the Strix card? I'm new to all of this (definitely doesn't help with the added layer of 3.5gb drama). My friend told me a month ago that the 970 is future proof and will be entry-level card for 4K gaming.
I don't really understand the justification between paying this or that for the minor differences between the cards but was hoping someone could give me an objective point of view between the OCUK and Strix cards.
It's not a 4k card, never has being and never will be. So any gaming at 4k will be at reduced image settings.
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The 970 is aimed at the mid range gamer's market (competitive price point) so it's designed for 1080p/1440p gaming.
Yeah, I'm well aware of that now after skimming through all the posts on this thread.
I think the scandal really put a bad light on the 970 considering relative to everything else that's out on the market it's still an amazing card, especially for the money.
Just don't know if I should grab an OCUK or Strix card now. Was wishing I would be able to grab a B-grade stock one with the standard warranty, shame.
IT WAS A MISTAKE!!! Jeez why does everyone have such a hard time getting their head around this concept. They made a mistake with the marketing details, nothing more complicated or sinister than that.
The notion that this was a deliberate coverup is lunacy. I suppose these are the same people who believe we never landed on the moon and that the CIA killed JFK
Seriously, you think big multi-million dollar companies make "mistakes" like that and then say it's all "as intended"? It's not like they haven't made similar "mistakes" in the past. Funny how it always benefits the company, never the customer.
And even if it was a mistake, that doesn't absolve them of responsibility, unless you are a Nvidia exec, it seems. In that case, you can blame reviewers and AIBs for saying the wrong thing to customers, but not take any responsibility when Nvidia told those people the wrong things to say in the first place.
I know some people here will love and support their "teams" no matter what, but customers should not let companies get away with such shady practices, let alone support and cheerlead for them when they do. Even if you do believe it a genuine mistake by hundreds of professionals working in one of the world's leading tech companies.
The only people who come out of this well are OCUK and their willingness to do the right thing by their customers.
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That's pretty much how I feel at the moment. I am asking myself to care about something that a few days ago I did not know anything about and the games that I play run as well as I would have thought they should.
Since having a 1440p monitor and a 970 GTX I do often see the memory maxed out but I do not know if any performance hits (or FPS inconsistencies) that I see is due to the now noted issue, the 256bit bus or the fact that the GPU load is often maxed out as well or a combination of all three or none at all
With the Direct X 12 support, not sure how much that will matter, and all the other qualities of the GTX 970 I still find it difficult to find an affordable replacement of equal value.
Still an 8GB 290x appraisal against that of the 970GTX at 1440p would be worth seeing.
This is what I've been wondering myself. As you say, stuttering, inconsistencies, etc, "could" be down to other factors, system setup, drivers, different gpu manufacturer, old windows installation, etc, not just the 970 Vram issues. I reckon a 970 will struggle at 1440 regardless when compared to a full fat 4gb card, but that card (4gb) could also struggle a bit, its a question of how much, and how far you'd have to reduce the settings to get decent gameplay. Until people here who have side graded and gone for a 290x with 4gb, we won't know. I personally think that at 1080, the 970 is the best choice around atm when looking at bang for buck.
Now?
It's never being recommended for 4k past present or future.
Let's just say my friend is an Nvidia fanboy that can get carried away with his descriptions. I guess no different than Nvidia themselves?
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I have a 970 & 980 here at the moment and just been comparing them and tbh I'm seeing very little difference at 1440p. Most of the time when the 970 gets a bit stutteey the 980 is as well. The 970 shows 3.5gb v-ram usuage in Mordor and the 980 is at 4Gb but it runs fine with both cards.
Tbh at 1440p or below unless you use monitoring tools and benchmarks I would say you would be hard pushed to tell them apart.
Tbh at 1440p or below unless you use monitoring tools and benchmarks I would say you would be hard pushed to tell them apart.
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Supposedly you get the latest SLI profile through the GFE.
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I game on a GTX980 refernce on a G-Sync swift @1440p and don't see any issues.
Well said.
"Mistake" or not, NVIDIA will be making a mistake if they don't rectify the situation for their customers.
And where do the board manufacturers figure in this ? Surely they would have discovered something about the way the VRAM is configured on the GTX970, or are they just assembling kits of components and packaging them ?
And it struggles with some games at 1080p and even more so at 1440p, so much for being "designed" for said settings...
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but Nvidia do promote 4K and Dynamic Super Resolution as a 970 features, still do on their own websites and videos...Now?
It's never being recommended for 4k past present or future.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I have 2 970s and I'm 50/50 about sending them back since I've been experiencing horrible stuttering. Even with a recorded high fps, it doesn't feel smooth. I'm just waiting to see what 290x owners say, and try a few games out.
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