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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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Princey said:
I want out of this crap, I wanted to SLI my 970 with the intention of having a future proofed system plus I needed the full 4GB Ram for CUDA work. This will be going back on Saturday.
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I run sli 970's at 1440p and have never had any issues running anything lower than High/Ultra@60fps+. If that helps at all. Inno3D 970's

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This is quite simply a LEGAL issue now. It will boil down to whether there was a breach of contract based on the legal definition of mis-selling, i.e if goods do not match the description you were given of them, that is a ‘breach of contract’ and you may have the right to a refund or return. This is not for me to decide, or Nvidia or OCUK. It's a legal matter, that's it. No one can argue with that, all the benchmarks in the world won't change a thing. It will come down to how the product was SOLD and the description given at that time. I don't know what the legal outcome/conclusion will be, and I'm not saying it is one way or the other... you'd have to speak to a legal expert in the field.
 
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Any claim would be based on what the retailer stated the card should have and not from Nvidia.

Your contract of sale is with the retailer and what their description states at the point of sale.

If the retailer did not mention the amount of rop's etc making a claim might be complicated.
 
Legend said:
This is quite simply a LEGAL issue now. It will boil down to whether there was a breach of contract based on the legal definition of mis-selling, i.e if goods do not match the description you were given of them, that is a ‘breach of contract’ and you may have the right to a refund or return. This is not for me to decide, or Nvidia or OCUK. It's a legal matter, that's it. No one can argue with that, all the benchmarks in the world won't change a thing. It will come down to how the product was SOLD and the description given at that time. I don't know what the legal outcome/conclusion will be, and I'm not saying it is one way or the other... you'd have to speak to a legal expert in the field.
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Hmm, description, match, something else....

Please point out where something is wrong.

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Legend said:
This is not for me to decide
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You have already made up your mind several days ago.

If you want to sue NVidia please go ahead but leave the rest of us out of it.

From what I can see from your posts is you are trying to drum up support because you don't want to go it alone.
 
Kaap what has got into you lately? Thats really not very friendly ^^^^

Sin_Chase said:
Nice reading. Try again.

You have posted a picture of:

A guide.
For reviewers, not consumers.
Which SPECIFICALLY states it should not be distributed.

Tell me again how you are going to use this as an argument for a retail product?
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Reviewers are one of Nvidia's information channel's, Nvidia are responsible for the information Nvidia give them, not the reviewer.
 
Legend said:
This is quite simply a LEGAL issue now. It will boil down to whether there was a breach of contract based on the legal definition of mis-selling, i.e if goods do not match the description you were given of them, that is a ‘breach of contract’ and you may have the right to a refund or return. This is not for me to decide, or Nvidia or OCUK. It's a legal matter, that's it. No one can argue with that, all the benchmarks in the world won't change a thing. It will come down to how the product was SOLD and the description given at that time. I don't know what the legal outcome/conclusion will be, and I'm not saying it is one way or the other... you'd have to speak to a legal expert in the field.
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You may have to show and explain how 64 rops and 2048KB influenced your decision to buy.
 
Sin_Chase said:
Nice reading. Try again.

You have posted a picture of:

A guide.
For reviewers, not consumers.
Which SPECIFICALLY states it should not be distributed.

Tell me again how you are going to use this as an argument for a retail product?
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Don't manufacturers reserve the right to change the specification of a product at a later date anyway.

I am not sure on the above so if someone could clarify please.
 
Kaapstad said:
Don't manufacturers reserve the right to change the specification of a product at a later date anyway.

I am not sure on the above so if someone could clarify please.
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No doubt such wording is buried in some Terms and Conditions or Contract somewhere.

The point that certain people seem to be ignoring is that nVidias technical papers/guides/presentations have absolutely nothing to do with the point of sale and the product as described AT THE POINT OF SALE.
 
Tonester0011 said:
Looks like Legend and Humbug are returning their 970s.
Good luck guys. Lol.
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Like Kaap earlier... why the attack on people who do want to return thier GPU's because of this, why this aggression?

Surly anyone is well within their rights to return it if they are not happy with it... it is not for you to try and bully them out of it, why would you even try? what do you owe Nvidia?
 
Legend said:
The Nvidia description would be admissible. What a reseller describes could be of course, but it would not form the entirety of evidence, as ultimately you are still buying an Nvidia product.
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It really wouldn't, but you know best!
You bought the item from an etailer, its how they described the item is what you bought.
 
Legend said:
The Nvidia description would be admissible. What a reseller describes could be of course, but it would not form the entirety of evidence, as ultimately you are still buying an Nvidia product.
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Are you intentionally being ignorant?

You have basically ignored everything being posted and continue to spout your own ideology.

nVidia's information is entirely inadmissible unless it forms part of the description at the POINT OF SALE. This includes:

The product described on the RETAILERS product information
The physical box in which it is presented
Any advertisement placed at the RETAILERS point of sale

Legend said:
Embargoed. Until a certain date. Totally different thing.
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No, it quite clearly states a point blank DO NOT DISTRIBUTE THIS DOCUMENT.

Not - DO NOT DISTRIBUTE THIS DOCUMENT UNTIL THIS DATE.

Even if it was permissible to distribute. It is a REVIEWERS GUIDE. It is NOT a product description or an advertisement. The only time it would EVER matter under SOGA is if that exact image was put on the RETAILERS product information. THEN it would form part of the description of the product you actually bought. Otherwise, go fish.
 
humbug said:
Like Kaap earlier... why the attack on people who do want to return thier GPU's because of this, why this aggregation?

Surly anyone is well within their rights to return it if they are not happy with it... it is not for you to try and bully them out of it, why would you even try? what do you owe Nvidia?
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Playing the victim, bless.
You going to return your 970 then mate? Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.
 
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