9970 to be twice as powerful as GTX 780/Titan ???

Alkalinepro5 · 6 Aug 2013 at 13:19

VincentHanna said:
Ok fair do's, I was wrong.

6870 is still a decent card though, i'm waiting to upgrade to the 9000 series

Agreed. My OC'd 6870 still plays most games maxxed at 1080p. Definately squeeze some more life out of it yet

VincentHanna · 6 Aug 2013 at 13:48

Yup, I think the only time I played something and thought it wasn't up to the task at maximum settings was Crysis 3.

Optimis0r · 6 Aug 2013 at 14:03

hmmm, 4870 -> 5870 things got doubled on the shader count front so its not impossible. But still I'll wait for something from VideoCardz.com as they are pretty spot on most of the time.

oldestgregg · 6 Aug 2013 at 14:19

VincentHanna said:
Yup, I think the only time I played something and thought it wasn't up to the task at maximum settings was Crysis 3.

Tomb raider,Metro LL and far cry 3? You must have the holy grail of 6870's as if I recall the 6870 was around 5850 area.

oldestgregg · 6 Aug 2013 at 14:27

should have added my friend now owns my old 5850 and i7 920@4ghz and cant "max" any of those games. I'm sorry if that sounds picky its just a pet peeve of mine. I ran a single 5850 for a while when it was out and I couldnt run everything at max even then which was what,2?, 3 years ago?

ObscureParadox · 6 Aug 2013 at 15:27

In my opinion the specs for a 20nm GPU like that are perfectly believable whereas the release date isn't. Surely if this were to launch it would be in early 2014 at the earliest?

Surely with it being a newer architecture the shaders would be more efficient than the old ones, therefor the actual floating point power of the card would be higher than mentioned?

Also I don't see them using a 512Bit bus, that's added complication and manufacturing costs, besides the fact that a 5GHz ram speed seems a little on the low side compared to what we've seen from more recent graphics cards.

Orangey · 6 Aug 2013 at 15:32

ObscureParadox said:
In my opinion the specs for a 20nm GPU like that are perfectly believable whereas the release date isn't. Surely if this were to launch it would be in early 2014 at the earliest?

Surely with it being a newer architecture the shaders would be more efficient than the old ones, therefor the actual floating point power of the card would be higher than mentioned?

Also I don't see them using a 512Bit bus, that's added complication and manufacturing costs, besides the fact that a 5GHz ram speed seems a little on the low side compared to what we've seen from more recent graphics cards.

It's fake. Popular opinion is that it will be 28nm and obviously not a 512bit bus, because AMD are not crazy and this is not 2004.

VincentHanna · 6 Aug 2013 at 16:23

Well ok, everything at Max other than Anti-alisasing then, I always knock that down to FSAA or one of the less intensive AA solutions.

Not played Last Light to be honest but I played Tomb Raider with everything high (other than A/A) and Tress FX at about 40 fps.

flopper · 6 Aug 2013 at 16:37

New card is coming, prices just pummeled 50euro here on the 7970.

Xcandyman · 6 Aug 2013 at 16:43

I don't have any doubt the new cards are coming

I just I don't expect them to be as powerful as the rumours say so. If the 9970 is near are slightly above the 780 with a lower price and a good Never Settle Bundle then I'll be on board.

ubersonic · 6 Aug 2013 at 16:49

ObscureParadox said:
Also I don't see them using a 512Bit bus, that's added complication and manufacturing costs, besides the fact that a 5GHz ram speed seems a little on the low side compared to what we've seen from more recent graphics cards.

5GHz + 512bit would be basically the same as 10GHz on a 256bit bus. Not saying that its legit, just that the fake ram speed makes sense given the fake bus width.

bicpug · 6 Aug 2013 at 16:52

They will charge whatever people are stupid enough to pay.

LtMatt · 6 Aug 2013 at 17:15

flopper said:
New card is coming, prices just pummeled 50euro here on the 7970.

Where's here?

Orangey · 6 Aug 2013 at 17:22

"flopper" sounds Dutch to me, going with Netherlands.

Xcandyman · 6 Aug 2013 at 17:32

LtMatt said:
Where's here?

I've noticed one popular (not sure why) company based in France recently drop their price of the Sapphire 7970 to a low price. Not a highly regarded firm though and wouldn't buy from there even if was a 75% drop in price.

flopper · 6 Aug 2013 at 18:50

Orangey said:
"flopper" sounds Dutch to me, going with Netherlands.

sweden...

melmac · 6 Aug 2013 at 23:08

I never believe any rumours about AMD graphics cards. They generally keep the information leaks to a minimum.

Kaapstad · 6 Aug 2013 at 23:16

melmac said:
I never believe any rumours about AMD graphics cards. They generally keep the information leaks to a minimum.

I don't believe any rumours about NVidia cards either.

All the BS written about the Titan before it was launched was unreal. Yes the Titans are quick but nowhere near most of the claims that were made about them.

We should have a sticky at the top of this forum where all the sites that publish this BS are named and shamed.

ObscureParadox · 7 Aug 2013 at 05:12

ubersonic said:
5GHz + 512bit would be basically the same as 10GHz on a 256bit bus. Not saying that its legit, just that the fake ram speed makes sense given the fake bus width.

It's the fake bus width that's the problem. The cost of producing a 512bit card would be much higher than a 384bit in the long run.

LtMatt · 7 Aug 2013 at 07:21

It wouldn't be the first time they've used a 512bit bus though.