A bit nervous about my GPU purchase

[Haggisman]

ive been running a reference 6800 for near on 2yrs. Absolute baller of a card for 1440p gaming.

Same here - running one at 3440x1440 and easily handles everything I throw at it, pretty good at 4k as well.

A couple of games I have played recently:

Metro Exodus EE with a mix of high/medium settings @ 3440x1440 ~80fps
RDR2 with a mix of high/ultra settings @ 4k ~70fps
Kingdom Come: Deliverance with high preset @ 3440x1440 ~90fps

The only game it has "struggled" in has been CP2077, had to drop to 1440p with high settings and low RT to maintain 40fps, without RT I could hit 60 (my TV only goes to 60hz, so maybe it would go higher), or bump it up to 4k and hit ~40-50fps

You'll get an extra bit of performance out of it if you pair it with an AMD CPU for SAM, and it undervolts/overclocks quite nicely too - iirc I got ~10% FPS boost (although I did have to tweak the fan curve to keep the temperatures down, so it was "a bit" noisier with that profile )

 

[humbug]

I've always had AMD cards, and currently on an RX6800xt, before that, an rx6800. I've another pc with a 12100f and rx6700xt, never any issues with any of 'em. I agree with Troezar, I reckon most issues occur when peeps start fiddling and pushing things a bit too far, and regarding drivers, I had an issue with my old 5700, but that was sorted with a driver update fairly quickly. People tend to expound the virtues of DLSS, but poor old RSR and FSR from amd hardly gets a mention, and I can assure you that RSR works really well.

Its because tech journalists are completely disinterested in technology unless they are paid to do features on it, which is fine, as journalists it their job to be paid for journalism.

Hardware Unboxed talked about Mantle very recently, its very interesting listening to these people talk about things like this because you get an insight in to their mind set.
Mantle helped changed the face of Graphics API's, it was hugely important.

Their perspective on it:
1, it was just something AMD did to make their bad CPU's look better, other than that it had no use what so ever.
2, it was the first and only time AMD ever did anything of their own accord, normally they just follow what others are doing.

I find that lack of knowledge and frankly ignorance astonishing, i mean if they don't know anything then fine, but they think they do, they act like they do and with it that is their prognosis on everything.

THAT, AMD..... is why this generation of tech journalists have no respect for you, why they think you are the high-street pound shop of hardware vendors, second or third rate to everything else.

You can change that, see how Intel are running around from journalist studio to journalist studio constantly talking us ARC, they have a team dedicated to doing that.
You need a team moving from studio to studio talking yourselves up, tell people about your history and what you have done for the industry, everyone needs to know who AMD really are.

Robert Hallock is brilliant and very likeable, get him out there....

 

[LtMatt]

I've always had AMD cards, and currently on an RX6800xt, before that, an rx6800. I've another pc with a 12100f and rx6700xt, never any issues with any of 'em. I agree with Troezar, I reckon most issues occur when peeps start fiddling and pushing things a bit too far, and regarding drivers, I had an issue with my old 5700, but that was sorted with a driver update fairly quickly. People tend to expound the virtues of DLSS, but poor old RSR and FSR from amd hardly gets a mention, and I can assure you that RSR works really well.

I use RSR in Warzone it’s great for extra FPS.

 

[Tired9]

I still have a mental feud with the 5700-XT even though I don't own it no more, it won't be forgotten, no other card or company has mentally abused me as much as that, if it was an Rx 480 / 580 then yeah I would say you will be fine.

Also remember those, it's great, works perfect, which think 10 game crashes a week are fine.

I will say you will likely be ok, at least you can RMA if anything is funky.

 

[humbug]

I still have a mental feud with the 5700-XT even though I don't own it no more, it won't be forgotten, no other card or company has mentally abused me as much as that, if it was an Rx 480 / 580 then yeah I would say you will be fine.

Also remember those, it's great, works perfect, which think 10 game crashes a week are fine.

I will say you will likely be ok, at least you can RMA if anything is funky.

I had a 5700XT, briefly, why did you get rid of yours?

 

[Tired9]

Its because tech journalists are completely disinterested in technology unless they are paid to do features on it, which is fine, as journalists it their job to be paid for journalism.

Hardware Unboxed talked about Mantle very recently, its very interesting listening to these people talk about things like this because you get an insight in to their mind set.
Mantle helped changed the face of Graphics API's, it was hugely important.

Their perspective on it:
1, it was just something AMD did to make their bad CPU's look better, other than that it had no use what so ever.
2, it was the first and only time AMD ever did anything of their own accord, normally they just follow what others are doing.

I find that lack of knowledge and frankly ignorance astonishing, i mean if they don't know anything then fine, but they think they do, they act like they do and with it that is their prognosis on everything.

THAT, AMD..... is why this generation of tech journalists have no respect for you, why they think you are the high-street pound shop of hardware vendors, second or third rate to everything else.

You can change that, see how Intel are running around from journalist studio to journalist studio constantly talking us ARC, they have a team dedicated to doing that.
You need a team moving from studio to studio talking yourselves up, tell people about your history and what you have done for the industry, everyone needs to know who AMD really are.

Robert Hallock is brilliant and very likeable, get him out there....

Bolded in red, no some of us know that, we don't think that, but we still do get children throwing toys out of prams if we say it.

 

[humbug]

Bolded in red, no some of us know that, we don't think that, but we still do get children throwing toys out of prams if we say it.

Point taken and yes, of course.

 

[Tired9]

I had a 5700XT, briefly, why did you get rid of yours?

I kept it for a year after the driver that was supposed to fix the black screen issues and system restarts hoping there would be a magic driver, I also did every fix you could think of and even tried odd ones, changed PSU, back then I moved it to a new Super Flower Leadex III 650w and after that I was literally fuming at the sheer ignorance of people dismissing the fact the issue still carried on way passed AMD's So called hotfixes.

I finally sold it on Ebay for a tenner more during the insane price period to a person who was mining and he was satisfied.

The system originally was a B450 Aorus Elite with 2600X and 16GB memory.
To a 5600X with X570 Aorus Elite, nothing changed, yet I was pouring money away.

Went to a 2060, bliss.

Went to a 3070, bliss.

 

[Haggisman]

I still have a mental feud with the 5700-XT even though I don't own it no more, it won't be forgotten, no other card or company has mentally abused me as much as that, if it was an Rx 480 / 580 then yeah I would say you will be fine.

Also remember those, it's great, works perfect, which think 10 game crashes a week are fine.

I will say you will likely be ok, at least you can RMA if anything is funky.

I had similar issues with the 5700xt - most unstable card I've ever had! Very happy with my 6800 so far, it's every bit as stable as the 980ti I had previously.

 

[Tired9]

I had similar issues with the 5700xt - most unstable card I've ever had! Very happy with my 6800 so far, it's every bit as stable as the 980ti I had previously.

Glad it's worked well for you mate.
To be fair I love how performant the 6000 series are vs the 3000 series though I have no personal reason to buy one as my 3070 fulfills 1440P for me very nicely, I have had the itch at times with the 6900 series but I just get memories of that 5700-XT and I'm like naa, rather keep my sanity.

 

[humbug]

I kept it for a year after the driver that was supposed to fix the black screen issues and system restarts hoping there would be a magic driver, I also did every fix you could think of and even tried odd ones, changed PSU, back then I moved it to a new Super Flower Leadex III 650w and after that I was literally fuming at the sheer ignorance of people dismissing the fact the issue still carried on way passed AMD's So called hotfixes.

I finally sold it on Ebay for a tenner more during the insane price period to a person who was mining and he was satisfied.

The system originally was a B450 Aorus Elite with 2600X and 16GB memory.
To a 5600X with X570 Aorus Elite, nothing changed, yet I was pouring money away.

Went to a 2060, bliss.

Went to a 3070, bliss.

Before the 5700XT i haven't bought AMD GPU's since my R9 290, which was a great GPU but everything after that just wasn't compelling, GTX 1070 or Vega 56, 1070 it was and then with the 5700XT it looked like AMD had got over that.

I never had the black screen thing, but i do know a lot of people did and AMD took too long to fix it.
I liked the the chip, i thought the drivers were very good, the problem i had was with the card its self, it was a cheap ASRock of some sort, i didn't expect much from it, it was a cheap card, but the cooler on this thing was wholly inadequate, not just a bit, really absolutely nothing like enough and very very cheap, i'm talking cheap by 2009 standards, the two 20 pence fans flat out could not push enough heat off the ultra light weight chunk of metal the glued to the chip.

I couldn't even bring myself to sell it on to some poor #### to have to deal with, some ones friend was desperate for a GPU, any GPU, so i took a used series 1 K70 keyboard that he no longer needed in exchange for it, i made it very clear to him the card was bad.

By that time i had already paid £480 for an MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X with a huge cooler on it. That card has been very nice to me, still is.

It didn't put me off AMD again, i was able to separate the atrocious cooler from the chip in my mind. But AMD need to monitor this more carefully, Nvidia would never allow anyone to sell something like that with their name pastured all over it, no way...

 

[Tired9]

Before the 5700XT i haven't bought AMD GPU's since my R9 290, which was a great GPU but everything after that just wasn't compelling, GTX 1070 or Vega 56, 1070 it was and then with the 5700XT it looked like AMD had got over that.

I never had the black screen thing, but i do know a lot of people did and AMD took too long to fix it.
I liked the the chip, i thought the drivers were very good, the problem i had was with the card its self, it was a cheap ASRock of some sort, i didn't expect much from it, it was a cheap card, but the cooler on this thing was wholly inadequate, not just a bit, really absolutely nothing like enough and very very cheap, i'm talking cheap by 2009 standards, the two 20 pence fans flat out could push enough heat off the ultra light weight chunk of metal the glued to the chip.

I couldn't even bring myself to sell it on to some poor #### to have to deal with, some ones friend was desperate for a GPU, any GPU, so i took a use series 1 K70 keyboard that he no longer needed in exchange for it, i made it very clear to him the card was bad.

By that time i had already paid £480 for an MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X with a huge cooler on it. That card has been very nice to me, still is.

It didn't put me off AMD again, i was able to separate the atrocious cooler from the chip in my mind. But AMD need to monitor this more carefully, Nvidia would never allow anyone to sell something like that with their name pastured all over it, no way...

As for a bigger hit to the old crown jewels, I had the Gigabyte Aorus model which for the 5700 series is literally top tier unless Sapphire had anything better?
It would never ramp up the fans properly and anything changed in the drivers would reset the next time the PC was started up.

At stock it was doing 2075mhz which is well above I think all of the 5700 models, the fans though would be stuck in zero RPM mode for too long and not go any further than 30%.

I have no idea what happened with AMD that generation, I also do wonder if buying the reference card would have had no issues at all and it was just a 3rd party problem, it is possible but I am theorizing.

 

[Troezar]

Before the 5700XT i haven't bought AMD GPU's since my R9 290, which was a great GPU but everything after that just wasn't compelling, GTX 1070 or Vega 56, 1070 it was and then with the 5700XT it looked like AMD had got over that.

I never had the black screen thing, but i do know a lot of people did and AMD took too long to fix it.
I liked the the chip, i thought the drivers were very good, the problem i had was with the card its self, it was a cheap ASRock of some sort, i didn't expect much from it, it was a cheap card, but the cooler on this thing was wholly inadequate, not just a bit, really absolutely nothing like enough and very very cheap, i'm talking cheap by 2009 standards, the two 20 pence fans flat out could not push enough heat off the ultra light weight chunk of metal the glued to the chip.

I couldn't even bring myself to sell it on to some poor #### to have to deal with, some ones friend was desperate for a GPU, any GPU, so i took a used series 1 K70 keyboard that he no longer needed in exchange for it, i made it very clear to him the card was bad.

By that time i had already paid £480 for an MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X with a huge cooler on it. That card has been very nice to me, still is.

It didn't put me off AMD again, i was able to separate the atrocious cooler from the chip in my mind. But AMD need to monitor this more carefully, Nvidia would never allow anyone to sell something like that with their name pastured all over it, no way...

I had a Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT, great cool card and no issues, only sold it as someone was prepared to pay me £850 for it. Some AIB's are definitely worth avoiding, had some poor cards from XFX in the past.

 

[humbug]

I had a Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT, great cool card and no issues, only sold it as someone was prepared to pay me £850 for it. Some AIB's are definitely worth avoiding, had some poor cards from XFX in the past.

Yeah, ASRock are now on my list of "Avoid" an AM4 Motherbaord i had of theirs was not much good either. nothing really wrong with it, it just wasn't a good board, the Gigabyte B550 i have now is very obviously 100 times better, you can tell just by holding the two, and it wasn't that much more money.

 

[Haggisman]

I had a Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT, great cool card and no issues, only sold it as someone was prepared to pay me £850 for it. Some AIB's are definitely worth avoiding, had some poor cards from XFX in the past.

Mine was a Powercolor as well, but just the standard dual fan model. It seemed pretty well built, but I had so many driver issues - at one point I was having to switch between driver versions depending on what game I wanted to play!

 

[Darujhistan]

I've always had AMD cards, and currently on an RX6800xt, before that, an rx6800. I've another pc with a 12100f and rx6700xt, never any issues with any of 'em. I agree with Troezar, I reckon most issues occur when peeps start fiddling and pushing things a bit too far, and regarding drivers, I had an issue with my old 5700, but that was sorted with a driver update fairly quickly. People tend to expound the virtues of DLSS, but poor old RSR and FSR from amd hardly gets a mention, and I can assure you that RSR works really well.

95% of driver issues are caused by user created by people who can't stop fannying about with settings on this that and the other, then they blame the drivers. Clueless most of them.

 

[Chrisc]

Same here - running one at 3440x1440 and easily handles everything I throw at it, pretty good at 4k as well.

A couple of games I have played recently:

Metro Exodus EE with a mix of high/medium settings @ 3440x1440 ~80fps
RDR2 with a mix of high/ultra settings @ 4k ~70fps
Kingdom Come: Deliverance with high preset @ 3440x1440 ~90fps

The only game it has "struggled" in has been CP2077, had to drop to 1440p with high settings and low RT to maintain 40fps, without RT I could hit 60 (my TV only goes to 60hz, so maybe it would go higher), or bump it up to 4k and hit ~40-50fps

You'll get an extra bit of performance out of it if you pair it with an AMD CPU for SAM, and it undervolts/overclocks quite nicely too - iirc I got ~10% FPS boost (although I did have to tweak the fan curve to keep the temperatures down, so it was "a bit" noisier with that profile )

Yeah it will see me through another 2yrs for sure, im on a 3900x which doesnt support SAM. Im thinking about grabbing a 5800x3d as a last hurrah for the AM4 platform and sticking with it for for another 2-3yrs while DDR5 matures.

 

[Haggisman]

im on a 3900x which doesnt support SAM

Are you sure about that - I have a 3700x and it works for me?

 

[Tired9]

95% of driver issues are caused by user created by people who can't stop fannying about with settings on this that and the other, then they blame the drivers. Clueless most of them.

And my answer to you is: Idiot.
You offer us no comeback, just yet more ignorance, the only push back is either ignore you completely or tell you how you really are.

Fannying about is apparently installing the driver expecting it to work, apparently setting a fan profile is fannying about too. Anything within the driver is apparently fannying about, yet they give you this stuff so you can tweak it to your liking?

Do you class your wife asking you to get up out of bed as fannying about too? Some things are just normally expected within normal rational limits and considering you are a consumer who spent money.

 

[pieman109]

And my answer to you is: Idiot.
You offer us no comeback, just yet more ignorance, the only push back is either ignore you completely or tell you how you really are.

Fannying about is apparently installing the driver expecting it to work, apparently setting a fan profile is fannying about too. Anything within the driver is apparently fannying about, yet they give you this stuff so you can tweak it to your liking?

Do you class your wife asking you to get up out of bed as fannying about too? Some things are just normally expected within normal rational limits and considering you are a consumer who spent money.

I think theres a difference between "setting up", ie: turning on RSR, Ichill, adjusting fan profiles, etc and "fannying" around with voltages (overvolting) and increasing frequencies without doing the appropriate testing and benching to ensure all is stable